Manchester United and Manchester City have both made their moves to sign Arsenal captain Robin Van Persie after making initial offers for the want away striker. City offered around 15 million pounds to Arsenal for Van Persie,and Uniteds bid,as confirmed by manager Sir Alex Ferguson,is understood to be around 13 million pounds. The Gunners want at least 20 million for their striker,who scored 44 goals in 57 games for his club and country last season,but endured a disappointing Euro Cup campaign. Obviously,Arsenal have given out the fact weve made a bid for him. Theres no point talking about something that might not happen, The Sun quoted Ferguson,as saying. There are other clubs interested in the player. Weve shown an interest and that is where we are at the moment, he added. Italian champions Juventus are also in the running and have said they will pay 8 million pounds for the Dutch international. Van Persie,who has just one year left on his current contract and insists he will not sign a new one,returned to training on Monday and then told boss Arsene Wenger he wanted a move.