Laloo’s raillery and repartee of yesteryear have today given way to bluff and bluster. More so when you confront him with facts. Over two hours he spent with AJIT KUMAR JHA of The Sunday Express, he called up at least a dozen bureaucrats in Patna to put up a show that he could hold people accountable. Ask him any uncomfortable question and he throws it back saying: ‘‘It’s an image problem, not a reality.’’ Ask him why a young man killed himself because the govt didn’t pay his father for 10 years and Laloo says the young man was ‘‘mad.’’ Question him on how a woman who has not been paid for years is pulling along and he says look at her picture, she ‘‘looks so robust.’’
You claim to represent the voice of the poor, you swear by social justice, yet people haven’t been paid for years. A 22-year-old sets himself on fire because your government had not paid his father. Do you feel any guilt?
No, not at all. You people don’t even get your facts correct. This young man was crazy, he just returned from Kanke (Ranchi’s mental hospital). His brother is a DSP in the police. He told me that his brother died of disease, not burns. Look, it is not a case of bloodless murder by us as painted by The Indian Express.
Why have his father Paritosh Bhattacharya and 40,000 other employees of the Bihar State government not been paid their dues for almost a decade?
Ever since I was a student at Patna’s Miller School, our teachers called corporations rightly as white elephants. The 40,000 employees that you describe as unpaid for a decade, including Paritosh Bhattacharya, are corporation employees, not pure state government employees. All state government employees in Bihar are paid their salaries regularly.
All the 50 corporations in Bihar are independent legal entities. Previous chairmen kept recruiting employees. This was a burden my government had to shoulder.
In 1996-97, some employees went to Patna High Court on the grounds of not getting their salaries. The court ordered either revive the corporations in three months time or failing that simply liquidate them.
Since you failed to revive them, why did you not liquidate them?
If we sell the corporations, their land and other assets the CBI will immediately pounce on us. They will create a scandal even if there is no such case. Moreover, the liquidation procedures are very complex and cumbersome. Who will buy the land and along with it the liabilities, ie, the employees?
How can you dismiss this as just a legacy of the past? Your party has now been in power for 12 years. Is it because most of those who haven’t been paid are from upper castes?
It’s not true that I do not care for the upper castes. The Mandal agenda and our struggle for the rights of the backwards gave vent to the anger of the poor against the privileged few. There are no feudal elements in Bihar; the majority, whether upper or lower castes, are simply dirt poor. I care for everyone.
If you cared for everyone then why is it that on almost all indicators of development Bihar is at the bottom of the heap?
Our detractors claim that Bihar is underdeveloped because of Laloo and Rabri. When we began development, I was simply pushed into jail. I end up spending all my time either in jail or in courts.
Bihar is poor because no Central government has ever invested in the state’s infrastructure. North Bihar has one of the highest densities of populations in the world and simply no industry. The entire pressure is on land and thousands of hectares are washed away by floods every year.
Centre can be blamed but isn’t education a state subject? How come college professors and school teachers have not been paid for months?
Previous CMs Karpoori Thakur, Jagannath Mishra and Bindeswari Dubey are responsible for such a state of affairs. They took huts and flats all over the state and called them colleges. None of these satisfied any norms. They did not even take the permission of the finance ministry. The result is while the rest of the country has 5,000 professors, Bihar alone has 8,000. How can we bear such a huge burden?
We found professors of Patna University haven’t been paid for months.
I don’t believe this.
Other states are competing with each other on governance, why do you seem so unconcerned?
Most CMs know how to manage the media. Take Naidu’s case, the media calls him the governance hero while farmers are committing suicide in his state.