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Episode 1979 May 3, 2022

PM Modi’s Euro tour, Swiggy’s drone trials, and Aligarh religious event

In this episode, Shubhajit Roy joins host Snigdha Sharma to discuss the significance of PM Modi’s three-day visit to Europe.

Next, Pranav Mukul tells us all about Swiggy’s trials for drone deliveries.

And finally, we go over details of a religious event in Aligarh that has brought its organisers under the scanner.


TRANSCRIPT

Snigdha Sharma: Hi, I’m Snigdha Sharma and you’re listening to 3 Things, The Indian Express news show. In this episode we discuss Prime Minister Modi’s Europe trip. We also discuss Swiggy’s drone trials, and we go over details of yet another controversial religious event in Uttar Pradesh’s Aligarh, beginning with Europe. On Sunday, Prime Minister Narendra Modi left the country for three days three country tour of Europe in what is his first visit abroad this year. According to government sources, Modi will have a total of around two dozen engagements where he will be spending around 65 hours, he will hold meetings bilateral as well as multilateral with world leaders from seven countries besides having an interaction with about 50 global business leaders. So to talk about the significance of his trip, we were joined by Shubhajit Roy. So Shubhajit, before we get to each of the countries that the Prime Minister will be visiting, if you could tell us a little bit about the purpose behind the Prime Minister’s tour?

Snigdha Sharma: Right. So Shubhajit, now starting with Germany, if you could quickly take us through India’s ties with Germany so far.

Shubhajit Roy: Yeah, so you know, this a bilateral visit that was supposed to happen in 2020 2021. But because of the pandemic, these visits couldn’t take place. So these bilateral visits with Germany, Denmark, and France has been added later have now materialised, because now the Covid situation is better and travel is possible. So that’s the reason it is in planned right now.

Shubhajit Roy: India and Germany are very close partners, especially this year, they’re celebrating the 70 years of diplomatic relations. Over the years the partnership has grown, has strengthened, especially economic partnership is really the big focus. And obviously now we need energy, climate change those issues. Also science and technology, collaboration is very high. And politically also both countries have shared values in terms of democratic traditions. Also, commitment to rules based order, both countries are aspirants for becoming a permanent members of the UN Security Council. So this lot of common interests, which is there between India and Germany.

Snigdha Sharma: Right, so now tell us what is on the agenda of this particular visit to Germany.

Shubhajit Roy: Yeah, so this particular visit actually is taking place. You know, there’s a first visit to Germany after the leadership transition in Germany, as Angela Merkel was the German Chancellor for 16 years and she stepped down last year. And now we have a new German Chancellor all options. So this is the first bilateral meeting between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz. So Modi and Scholz will obviously, sort of get to know each other meeting also, this structure between India and Germany bilateral dialogue mechanism, which is called the inter governmental consultation, where both sides meet with some key cabinet ministers. So this time, I mean, this intergovernmental consultation was supposed to be held in 2021. That is last year, but because of the COVID pandemic, as I said, the visit couldn’t take place. So IGC is now taking place where Prime Minister will be accompanied by the External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar, Finance Minister Nirmala Sitaraman, and the Science and Technology Minister. So it’s sort of a review of the relationship where this particular all the bilateral issues will be discussed. Obviously, right now, as you know, there is a war going on in Europe, Russia has invaded Ukraine, and that will be definitely top of the agenda. As reported an exclusive interview with the German Chancellor Scholz who told me that he is confident that there will be a broad agreement on the issue of calling these massacres as war crimes and those who have committed these crimes will be brought to justice. So that will also be a major part of the conversation when Prime Minister Modi meets Chancellor Scholz.

Narendra Modi: Lok Tantrik Deshon ke taur par. Bharat aur Germany, kai common mulyon ko saaja karte hain. In saaja mulyon aur saaja hithon ke adhaar par. Pichle kuch varshon mein humare sambhandon mein pragati hui. Humaari pichli IGC 2019 mein hui thi. Tabse vishwa mein mahatvapoorn parivartan hua, COVID-19 Mahamaari ne veshvik arthavyavasta par galat prabhav daala hai. Balki Geo-political ghatnao ne bhi dikhaaya ki vishwa ki shanti aur veerta, kitni nazuk sthiti mein hai. Aur sabhi desh, kitne interconnect hain.

Snigdha Sharma: This is Narendra Modi’s fifth visit to Germany after becoming the prime minister. He had earlier visited the European country in 2018, 17 and 2015. On Monday, Modi and the newly appointed Chancellor scholz held a bilateral meeting just before the sixth round of the biannual inter governmental consultations between India and Germany. The inter governmental consultations or the IGC are a unique biannual dialogue mechanism exclusive between India and Germany that allows the two governments to coordinate on a wide spectrum of bilateral matters besides S Jaishankar and Ajit Doval. Finance Minister Nirmala Sitaraman was also present in the meeting. Separately S Jaishankar also met his German counterpart Annalena Beerbock, and the two leaders reviewed the bilateral cooperation and discuss the Russia Ukraine conflict and the Indo Pacific. Jaishankar also met the German Minister for Economic cooperation and Development, and discuss climate action, resilient and reliable supply chains, third country partnerships and the economic impact of the Russia-Ukraine conflict. He also signed agreements on triangular development cooperation, and renewable energy partnership. Germany is currently India’s largest trading partner in Europe, with a bilateral trade of over $21 billion. And now coming to Denmark. So Shubhajit India has been lately focusing a lot on green energy and sustainable development. Tell us how important is this visit to Denmark? And how will it help India in pushing towards these goals?

Shubhajit Roy: Well, with Denmark also, there’s a relationship basically based on green energy. So there’s a green strategic partnership that has been agreed between the two countries and underway the new partnership in green energy innovation, and that is something that will be discussed.

Snigdha Sharma: Ankita Dutta, a research fellow at the India Council of World Affairs, wrote a paper on Nordic countries are pioneers in innovation, clean energy, green technologies, education, healthcare, human rights, rule of law, and that this presents enormous opportunities for India to expand its own strength by collaborating with these countries. For Nordic countries that are wrote, it makes sense to step up their engagement, as India today represents a fast growing economy with an annual GDP growth of seven to 7.5%. Over the last few years, she says that India presents an ideal opportunity to these countries because of its large market, many new flagship schemes have been launched by India, like Make-In-India, Smart Cities Mission, Startup India, Clean Ganga, etc, in which Nordic countries can take active spot and provide their expertise. And now moving on to France. Shubhajit, briefly took us to India’s relationship with the country over the years.

Shubhajit Roy: With France again, India has a very important relationship a strategic partnerships across several sectors, defence, space, nuclear, also economic relationship, and obviously there’s strong people to People connect there between India and France. This time, Prime Minister Modi is visiting on his way back from Europe, because Macron has just been re elected president. And he wanted to meet him while he was there in Europe. So he’s sort of stopping by for a brief meeting with the French president.

Snigdha Sharma: In 1998, after the Pokhran tests, France was one of the few Western countries to not condemn India. It has also always stood by India’s claim for permanent membership of the United Nations Security Council. France’s support played an important role in India’s accession to the Missile Technology Control Regime, the Wassenaar agreement and Australia group. Country continues to support India’s bid for accession to the Nuclear Suppliers Group. And in 2019, following the Pulwama attack, France nationally listed the Pakistan based global terrorist Hafiz Saeed, which was followed up with his listing at the UN. France has also supported India’s request to block attempts by Pakistan to enlist Indian citizens under the UNSC 1267 Sanctions Committee. Now coming back to Shubhajit, so Shubhajit could you finally if you could tell us what are the main issues that you know the two leaders are looking to discuss in France?

Shubhajit Roy: Well, it’s mostly about congratulatory messages being exchanged. But also obviously these key issues as I mentioned earlier, defence is a nuclear economic relationship, all these issues will be discussed. And once again, Ukraine will again be top of the mind because as you know, Macron has spoken to both Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky, just like Prime Minister Modi has, and the last few weeks, and I guess both will be exchanging notes on the situation on ground in Ukraine and the strategic imperatives and the repercussions that this crisis has led to. So all these issues will be discussed.

Snigdha Sharma: And now coming to Swiggy online food delivery platform Swiggy said recently that it will pilot the use of drones for its instant grocery service Insta Mart from me onwards, the delivery platform said it is starting the deployment of drones on a trial basis. The company has roped in four drones as the service operators for these trials, which will be conducted in two phases. While the idea has excited drone manufacturers, experts have raised their concerns around the existing regulations. So how is he planning to conduct these drone trials? We went to Indian Express’s Pranav Mukul to find out.

Pranav Mukul: So right now, Swiggy has on-boarded four drone operators to conduct these drone trials. It is planning to conduct them in two phases. And in the first phase the trials will be conducted in Bangalore and Delhi NCR. So this is essentially meant for swiggy’s E-commerce grocery service, which is Instamart and it has onboarded is for companies to for the first phase of the trial and two more for the second phase of the trial, the first phase has started on May first and on the basis of the lessons from these trials that will be conducted in the first phase, it will carry on with the second phase and expand it a little bit before actually going live with it.

Snigdha Sharma: Right. So tell us Pranav can swiggy Instamart customers expect to receive their deliveries via drones now?

Pranav Mukul: It won’t be as straightforward because right now, what figures said it’s in its pilot phase, it will use drones to have goods delivered between its seller and dark stores, which are the stores where customers get their deliveries from and between these dark stores to a common customer point. So as far as a customer is concerned, they would still be receiving their deliveries by a delivery executive, the way it usually happens. But these delivery executives who are you know, part of this trial will be picking up their deliveries from a common loading point where the goods will be delivered using drones from the dark stores.

Snigdha Sharma: Okay, and what are the government regulations in place for the commercial use of drones in India.

Pranav Mukul: So drones are already being commercially used by you know, government agencies and stuff like that for say, taking note of what kind of land or in mining or in real estate sector etc. But as far as drone deliveries are concerned, the most important factor is beyond visual line of sight operations, which means that a drone operator can fly a drone that he cannot physically see himself but is operating using a computer remotely that has not been allowed by the government yet. But last year, the Ministry of Civil Aviation had granted conditional exemption to 20 entities including Swiggy and some of the companies that work for this drone delivery pilot to conduct these beyond visual line of sight experimental flight.

Snigdha Sharma: Okay, now next Pranav, if you could tell us a little bit more about the companies in India that are currently involved in drone operations.

Pranav Mukul: There are these four companies that we started up with. One of them is a consortium between A and R and Tech Eagle Tech eagle is a company that Zomato had once invested in, but it withdrew its investment from this company, Zomato had plans to start its own delivery services a couple of years back, but that never happened. Then a company Swiggy has tied with is Maruthi Drone tech. Then there are also these companies Garuda Aerospace and Skyeair mobility. So what’s happening is that the manufacturing of drones, which is as of now most of it is happening in China, companies in India are typically you know, buying these drones and operating it for someone else who needs it, because not everyone has the expertise to fly these drones or his licence to fly these drones, a lot of these companies that are contracting these drone operators to fly their drones for them. Last year delhivery, which is a logistics company also invested in a California based sort of drone development company, which is building its own drone platforms.

Snigdha Sharma: Right. And finally, if you could give us a few examples from other countries, where drones are being successfully used for commercial purposes.

Pranav Mukul: It hasn’t happened yet. The drones are being used on a very large scale commercial presence to deliver goods. But yeah, there are a few examples where companies have started experimental flights or pilot testing in metropolitan areas to deliver goods through drones. One recent example is Alphabet, which is Google’s parent. It has a drone delivery unit called wing, which operates in three countries including the US and just started delivering Medicines and Healthcare supplies from Walgreens, which is a major pharmacy chain in the US started delivering consignments using drones in Dallas, Texas, which is a major metropolitan area, like I said, and so far it’s been successful, but a lot of other countries are also globally working on drone deliveries, but a lot of work is still left to do before we start seeing large scale drone delivery operations.

Snigdha Sharma: And now coming to the religious event in Aligarh, the earlier district administration has sent a show cause notice to the organisers of religious event on Sunday, during which some speakers allegedly made objectionable references against a minority community. A Sanathan Dharma Sabha was organised at Aligarh’s Ramlila ground on Sunday, and it was also attended by Yati Narshinghanand and Kalicharan Mharaj, both of whom are already facing criminal charges for hate speech. The notice sent by the administration to the organisers read and I quote, “permission was taken for food distribution and ceremony for priests. It was brought to our notice that Swords brandish at the event despite a ban on carrying weapons. There are also reports that comments were made regarding a religious minority to incite sentiments”, unquote. The notice further stated that action will be taken against the organisers if a satisfactory response is not filed within 24 hours. In a recorded video of the event, Kalicharan Maharaj can be heard telling the crowd that Hindus have become a minority in the country, and that there was an extreme situation at present, and that the community should be prepared for all circumstances. He also reportedly said that the Hindu community must think of protecting their loved ones from members of the minority community. According to the Aligarh police, there was no complaint with regard to the event. Action, however, will be taken as per the notice issued by the administration. Kalicharan Maharaj was arrested for his speech at a similar event in Raipur in December last year, where he had allegedly abused Mahatma Gandhi and hailed Nathuram Ghodse for killing him. He was arrested in January and granted bail by the Chattisgarh High Court on first of April. Yati Narsinghanand and who is out on bail in the Haridwar hate speech case had last month delivered a speech at a Delhi event exhorting Hindus to pick up arms, citing the threat of conversion and violence. If a Muslim is made the Prime Minister. Narsinghanand is the head priest of Ghaziabad does not the temple and one of the conditions for his bail was that he will not be a part of any event or gathering aimed at creating differences between communities.

Snigdha Sharma: You were listening to 3 Things by the Indian Express Today Show was written and produced by me Snigdha Sharma and was edited and mixed by Suresh Pawar. You can follow us and leave us feedback on Facebook or Twitter @expresspodcast or send us an email at podcast@Indian express.com and if you like the show, please do SUBSCRIBE And leave us a review wherever you get your podcasts from, so more people can find us. You can also look for us in the audio section in the top right corner of our website indianexpress.com

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PM Modi’s Euro tour, Swiggy’s drone trials, and Aligarh religious eventIn this episode, Shubhajit Roy joins host Snigdha Sharma to discuss the significance of PM Modi's three-day visit to Europe. Next, Pranav Mukul tells us all about Swiggy's trials for drone deliveries. And finally, we go over details of a religious event in Aligarh that has brought its organisers under the scanner. TRANSCRIPT Snigdha Sharma: Hi, I'm Snigdha Sharma and you're listening to 3 Things, The Indian Express news show. In this episode we discuss Prime Minister Modi's Europe trip. We also discuss Swiggy's drone trials, and we go over details of yet another controversial religious event in Uttar Pradesh's Aligarh, beginning with Europe. On Sunday, Prime Minister Narendra Modi left the country for three days three country tour of Europe in what is his first visit abroad this year. According to government sources, Modi will have a total of around two dozen engagements where he will be spending around 65 hours, he will hold meetings bilateral as well as multilateral with world leaders from seven countries besides having an interaction with about 50 global business leaders. So to talk about the significance of his trip, we were joined by Shubhajit Roy. So Shubhajit, before we get to each of the countries that the Prime Minister will be visiting, if you could tell us a little bit about the purpose behind the Prime Minister's tour? Snigdha Sharma: Right. So Shubhajit, now starting with Germany, if you could quickly take us through India's ties with Germany so far. Shubhajit Roy: Yeah, so you know, this a bilateral visit that was supposed to happen in 2020 2021. But because of the pandemic, these visits couldn't take place. So these bilateral visits with Germany, Denmark, and France has been added later have now materialised, because now the Covid situation is better and travel is possible. So that's the reason it is in planned right now. Shubhajit Roy: India and Germany are very close partners, especially this year, they're celebrating the 70 years of diplomatic relations. Over the years the partnership has grown, has strengthened, especially economic partnership is really the big focus. And obviously now we need energy, climate change those issues. Also science and technology, collaboration is very high. And politically also both countries have shared values in terms of democratic traditions. Also, commitment to rules based order, both countries are aspirants for becoming a permanent members of the UN Security Council. So this lot of common interests, which is there between India and Germany. Snigdha Sharma: Right, so now tell us what is on the agenda of this particular visit to Germany. Shubhajit Roy: Yeah, so this particular visit actually is taking place. You know, there's a first visit to Germany after the leadership transition in Germany, as Angela Merkel was the German Chancellor for 16 years and she stepped down last year. And now we have a new German Chancellor all options. So this is the first bilateral meeting between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz. So Modi and Scholz will obviously, sort of get to know each other meeting also, this structure between India and Germany bilateral dialogue mechanism, which is called the inter governmental consultation, where both sides meet with some key cabinet ministers. So this time, I mean, this intergovernmental consultation was supposed to be held in 2021. That is last year, but because of the COVID pandemic, as I said, the visit couldn't take place. So IGC is now taking place where Prime Minister will be accompanied by the External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar, Finance Minister Nirmala Sitaraman, and the Science and Technology Minister. So it's sort of a review of the relationship where this particular all the bilateral issues will be discussed. Obviously, right now, as you know, there is a war going on in Europe, Russia has invaded Ukraine, and that will be definitely top of the agenda. As reported an exclusive interview with the German Chancellor Scholz who told me that he is confident that there will be a broad agreement on the issue of calling these massacres as war crimes and those who have committed these crimes will be brought to justice. So that will also be a major part of the conversation when Prime Minister Modi meets Chancellor Scholz. Narendra Modi: Lok Tantrik Deshon ke taur par. Bharat aur Germany, kai common mulyon ko saaja karte hain. In saaja mulyon aur saaja hithon ke adhaar par. Pichle kuch varshon mein humare sambhandon mein pragati hui. Humaari pichli IGC 2019 mein hui thi. Tabse vishwa mein mahatvapoorn parivartan hua, COVID-19 Mahamaari ne veshvik arthavyavasta par galat prabhav daala hai. Balki Geo-political ghatnao ne bhi dikhaaya ki vishwa ki shanti aur veerta, kitni nazuk sthiti mein hai. Aur sabhi desh, kitne interconnect hain. Snigdha Sharma: This is Narendra Modi's fifth visit to Germany after becoming the prime minister. He had earlier visited the European country in 2018, 17 and 2015. On Monday, Modi and the newly appointed Chancellor scholz held a bilateral meeting just before the sixth round of the biannual inter governmental consultations between India and Germany. The inter governmental consultations or the IGC are a unique biannual dialogue mechanism exclusive between India and Germany that allows the two governments to coordinate on a wide spectrum of bilateral matters besides S Jaishankar and Ajit Doval. Finance Minister Nirmala Sitaraman was also present in the meeting. Separately S Jaishankar also met his German counterpart Annalena Beerbock, and the two leaders reviewed the bilateral cooperation and discuss the Russia Ukraine conflict and the Indo Pacific. Jaishankar also met the German Minister for Economic cooperation and Development, and discuss climate action, resilient and reliable supply chains, third country partnerships and the economic impact of the Russia-Ukraine conflict. He also signed agreements on triangular development cooperation, and renewable energy partnership. Germany is currently India's largest trading partner in Europe, with a bilateral trade of over $21 billion. And now coming to Denmark. So Shubhajit India has been lately focusing a lot on green energy and sustainable development. Tell us how important is this visit to Denmark? And how will it help India in pushing towards these goals? Shubhajit Roy: Well, with Denmark also, there's a relationship basically based on green energy. So there's a green strategic partnership that has been agreed between the two countries and underway the new partnership in green energy innovation, and that is something that will be discussed. Snigdha Sharma: Ankita Dutta, a research fellow at the India Council of World Affairs, wrote a paper on Nordic countries are pioneers in innovation, clean energy, green technologies, education, healthcare, human rights, rule of law, and that this presents enormous opportunities for India to expand its own strength by collaborating with these countries. For Nordic countries that are wrote, it makes sense to step up their engagement, as India today represents a fast growing economy with an annual GDP growth of seven to 7.5%. Over the last few years, she says that India presents an ideal opportunity to these countries because of its large market, many new flagship schemes have been launched by India, like Make-In-India, Smart Cities Mission, Startup India, Clean Ganga, etc, in which Nordic countries can take active spot and provide their expertise. And now moving on to France. Shubhajit, briefly took us to India's relationship with the country over the years. Shubhajit Roy: With France again, India has a very important relationship a strategic partnerships across several sectors, defence, space, nuclear, also economic relationship, and obviously there's strong people to People connect there between India and France. This time, Prime Minister Modi is visiting on his way back from Europe, because Macron has just been re elected president. And he wanted to meet him while he was there in Europe. So he's sort of stopping by for a brief meeting with the French president. Snigdha Sharma: In 1998, after the Pokhran tests, France was one of the few Western countries to not condemn India. It has also always stood by India's claim for permanent membership of the United Nations Security Council. France's support played an important role in India's accession to the Missile Technology Control Regime, the Wassenaar agreement and Australia group. Country continues to support India's bid for accession to the Nuclear Suppliers Group. And in 2019, following the Pulwama attack, France nationally listed the Pakistan based global terrorist Hafiz Saeed, which was followed up with his listing at the UN. France has also supported India's request to block attempts by Pakistan to enlist Indian citizens under the UNSC 1267 Sanctions Committee. Now coming back to Shubhajit, so Shubhajit could you finally if you could tell us what are the main issues that you know the two leaders are looking to discuss in France? Shubhajit Roy: Well, it's mostly about congratulatory messages being exchanged. But also obviously these key issues as I mentioned earlier, defence is a nuclear economic relationship, all these issues will be discussed. And once again, Ukraine will again be top of the mind because as you know, Macron has spoken to both Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky, just like Prime Minister Modi has, and the last few weeks, and I guess both will be exchanging notes on the situation on ground in Ukraine and the strategic imperatives and the repercussions that this crisis has led to. So all these issues will be discussed. Snigdha Sharma: And now coming to Swiggy online food delivery platform Swiggy said recently that it will pilot the use of drones for its instant grocery service Insta Mart from me onwards, the delivery platform said it is starting the deployment of drones on a trial basis. The company has roped in four drones as the service operators for these trials, which will be conducted in two phases. While the idea has excited drone manufacturers, experts have raised their concerns around the existing regulations. So how is he planning to conduct these drone trials? We went to Indian Express's Pranav Mukul to find out. Pranav Mukul: So right now, Swiggy has on-boarded four drone operators to conduct these drone trials. It is planning to conduct them in two phases. And in the first phase the trials will be conducted in Bangalore and Delhi NCR. So this is essentially meant for swiggy's E-commerce grocery service, which is Instamart and it has onboarded is for companies to for the first phase of the trial and two more for the second phase of the trial, the first phase has started on May first and on the basis of the lessons from these trials that will be conducted in the first phase, it will carry on with the second phase and expand it a little bit before actually going live with it. Snigdha Sharma: Right. So tell us Pranav can swiggy Instamart customers expect to receive their deliveries via drones now? Pranav Mukul: It won't be as straightforward because right now, what figures said it's in its pilot phase, it will use drones to have goods delivered between its seller and dark stores, which are the stores where customers get their deliveries from and between these dark stores to a common customer point. So as far as a customer is concerned, they would still be receiving their deliveries by a delivery executive, the way it usually happens. But these delivery executives who are you know, part of this trial will be picking up their deliveries from a common loading point where the goods will be delivered using drones from the dark stores. Snigdha Sharma: Okay, and what are the government regulations in place for the commercial use of drones in India. Pranav Mukul: So drones are already being commercially used by you know, government agencies and stuff like that for say, taking note of what kind of land or in mining or in real estate sector etc. But as far as drone deliveries are concerned, the most important factor is beyond visual line of sight operations, which means that a drone operator can fly a drone that he cannot physically see himself but is operating using a computer remotely that has not been allowed by the government yet. But last year, the Ministry of Civil Aviation had granted conditional exemption to 20 entities including Swiggy and some of the companies that work for this drone delivery pilot to conduct these beyond visual line of sight experimental flight. Snigdha Sharma: Okay, now next Pranav, if you could tell us a little bit more about the companies in India that are currently involved in drone operations. Pranav Mukul: There are these four companies that we started up with. One of them is a consortium between A and R and Tech Eagle Tech eagle is a company that Zomato had once invested in, but it withdrew its investment from this company, Zomato had plans to start its own delivery services a couple of years back, but that never happened. Then a company Swiggy has tied with is Maruthi Drone tech. Then there are also these companies Garuda Aerospace and Skyeair mobility. So what's happening is that the manufacturing of drones, which is as of now most of it is happening in China, companies in India are typically you know, buying these drones and operating it for someone else who needs it, because not everyone has the expertise to fly these drones or his licence to fly these drones, a lot of these companies that are contracting these drone operators to fly their drones for them. Last year delhivery, which is a logistics company also invested in a California based sort of drone development company, which is building its own drone platforms. Snigdha Sharma: Right. And finally, if you could give us a few examples from other countries, where drones are being successfully used for commercial purposes. Pranav Mukul: It hasn't happened yet. The drones are being used on a very large scale commercial presence to deliver goods. But yeah, there are a few examples where companies have started experimental flights or pilot testing in metropolitan areas to deliver goods through drones. One recent example is Alphabet, which is Google's parent. It has a drone delivery unit called wing, which operates in three countries including the US and just started delivering Medicines and Healthcare supplies from Walgreens, which is a major pharmacy chain in the US started delivering consignments using drones in Dallas, Texas, which is a major metropolitan area, like I said, and so far it's been successful, but a lot of other countries are also globally working on drone deliveries, but a lot of work is still left to do before we start seeing large scale drone delivery operations. Snigdha Sharma: And now coming to the religious event in Aligarh, the earlier district administration has sent a show cause notice to the organisers of religious event on Sunday, during which some speakers allegedly made objectionable references against a minority community. A Sanathan Dharma Sabha was organised at Aligarh's Ramlila ground on Sunday, and it was also attended by Yati Narshinghanand and Kalicharan Mharaj, both of whom are already facing criminal charges for hate speech. The notice sent by the administration to the organisers read and I quote, "permission was taken for food distribution and ceremony for priests. It was brought to our notice that Swords brandish at the event despite a ban on carrying weapons. There are also reports that comments were made regarding a religious minority to incite sentiments", unquote. The notice further stated that action will be taken against the organisers if a satisfactory response is not filed within 24 hours. In a recorded video of the event, Kalicharan Maharaj can be heard telling the crowd that Hindus have become a minority in the country, and that there was an extreme situation at present, and that the community should be prepared for all circumstances. He also reportedly said that the Hindu community must think of protecting their loved ones from members of the minority community. According to the Aligarh police, there was no complaint with regard to the event. Action, however, will be taken as per the notice issued by the administration. Kalicharan Maharaj was arrested for his speech at a similar event in Raipur in December last year, where he had allegedly abused Mahatma Gandhi and hailed Nathuram Ghodse for killing him. He was arrested in January and granted bail by the Chattisgarh High Court on first of April. Yati Narsinghanand and who is out on bail in the Haridwar hate speech case had last month delivered a speech at a Delhi event exhorting Hindus to pick up arms, citing the threat of conversion and violence. If a Muslim is made the Prime Minister. Narsinghanand is the head priest of Ghaziabad does not the temple and one of the conditions for his bail was that he will not be a part of any event or gathering aimed at creating differences between communities. Snigdha Sharma: You were listening to 3 Things by the Indian Express Today Show was written and produced by me Snigdha Sharma and was edited and mixed by Suresh Pawar. You can follow us and leave us feedback on Facebook or Twitter @expresspodcast or send us an email at podcast@Indian express.com and if you like the show, please do SUBSCRIBE And leave us a review wherever you get your podcasts from, so more people can find us. You can also look for us in the audio section in the top right corner of our website indianexpress.com
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