Escalating his attacks on the special counsel investigation, President Donald Trump said Wednesday that a presidential pardon for his former campaign chairman Paul Manafort is “not off the table,” casting him and other subjects of the inquiry as victims of prosecutorial abuse.
Although Trump had not discussed a pardon for Manafort, “I wouldn’t take it off the table,” he said in an Oval Office interview with The New York Post. “Why would I take it off the table?”
He said that prosecutors for the special counsel, Robert Mueller, had poorly treated Manafort, who was convicted of eight felonies this summer and pleaded guilty to two more.
Though Trump is given to loose promises that go unfulfilled, the suggestion of a pardon was nonetheless remarkable. It came as his rhetorical attacks on Mueller have grown increasingly provocative — the president tweeted Wednesday that prosecutors were “viciously telling witnesses to lie about facts & they will get relief” — and as leading Republican senators again thwarted an effort to protect Mueller from being fired.
The president’s declaration also capped a turn of events for Manafort, who was a cooperating witness for Mueller until prosecutors declared this week that he had lied to them in breach of his plea agreement. They were said to be frustrated in part because one of his lawyers was updating Trump’s legal team about the case.
By leaving open the possibility of pardoning a former aide whose lawyer was a source of inside information about an investigation into Trump himself, the president showed a new willingness to publicly signal that he will intervene to protect people who are in the special counsel’s crosshairs.
And though the president’s advisers have previously dangled the possibility of pardons before targets of the special counsel’s inquiry, pardoning Manafort could be politically risky for Trump. Before he pleaded guilty to two conspiracy charges in September, Manafort was convicted of financial fraud after a lengthy jury trial. He now faces at least 10 years in prison.
Despite prosecutors’ declaration that Manafort had lied to them, Trump claimed that Manafort had instead refused to make false statements that would advance the special counsel’s investigation. He said Jerome Corsi, a conservative author, had also been pressured to lie and defended Roger Stone Jr., a former Trump campaign adviser and longtime friend of the president’s whom the special counsel is investigating.
“It’s actually very brave,” Trump said. “I’m telling you this is McCarthyism. We are in the McCarthy era. This is no better than McCarthy.”
Corsi, whom Trump singled out in his interview with The Post, has said he expects to be indicted on charges of lying to federal prosecutors, but as yet faces none. Federal prosecutors have yet to interview Stone, despite Trump’s claim that they demanded he lie to help them.
His comments prompted renewed efforts by some senators to force a vote on a measure that would protect Mueller and future special counsels from being fired for political reasons. Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., said that given the president’s now near-daily attacks on Mueller, “to be so sanguine about the chances of him getting fired is folly for us.”
But for the second time in two weeks, a prominent Republican on Wednesday blocked the measure. The Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, called it unnecessary. “The president’s not going to fire Robert Mueller,” he said. “Nor do I think he should.”
Trump ordered Mueller fired at least twice last year but never followed through.
The president’s view of the special counsel’s inquiry into Russia’s 2016 election interference and whether any Trump associates conspired is shaped in part by what his lawyers have heard from defense lawyers representing subjects or witnesses who are interacting with prosecutors.
His lawyers were particularly alarmed by developments suggesting that investigators were trying to home in on whether anyone connected to the Trump campaign interacted with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, according to people familiar with the situation. Russian agents hacked Democratic computers and funneled tens of thousands of emails and other documents to WikiLeaks to distribute in order to undermine Hillary Clinton’s campaign.
After languishing for more than a year, the Senate bill to protect Mueller picked up some momentum once Trump fired Attorney General Jeff Sessions, transferring oversight of the Mueller investigation to the acting attorney general, Matthew G. Whitaker, one of its most vocal critics.
Proponents of the measure said that they planned to keep pushing for a floor vote through the remainder of this session of Congress, which adjourns next month.
Democrats are trying, for example, to add the bill to must-pass year-end government spending legislation, but whether such a proposal could survive negotiations with Republicans is highly uncertain.
The legislation is intended to ensure that special counsels like Mueller can be removed from office by the Justice Department only for good cause. Most notably, it would establish a 10-day window within which a special counsel could petition a panel of federal judges to determine whether a firing was justified. If the panel determined it was not, the counsel would be promptly reinstated.
The legislation would also ensure that the special counsel’s staff and investigative materials are preserved while the review takes place.
Senators from both parties introduced similar bills in the summer of 2017, and the Senate Judiciary Committee passed one measure with bipartisan support in April. But McConnell or other prominent Republicans have blocked a vote.
Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, who stopped proponents’ efforts to move the measure to the floor Wednesday, said it would make special counsels so powerful that they would constitute “a de facto fourth branch of government.”
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