Hearing concludes for the day
During the hearing, centre told the apex court that secular court cannot determine whether a religious practice is superstition.Kerala Sabarimala Temple Case Hearing Highlights: The Supreme Court is hearing the pleas concerning discrimination against women at religious places, including the Sabarimala temple, and the scope of religious freedom under the Constitution.
Nine-judge bench: Chief Justice of India Surya Kant will preside over the bench, which will include Justices B V Nagarathna, M M Sundresh, Ahsanuddin Amanullah, Aravind Kumar, Augustine George Masih, Prasanna B Varale, R Mahadevan and Joymalya Bagchi.
On September 28, 2018, a five-judge bench of the Supreme Court, by a 4:1 majority, lifted the age restriction on women visitors and struck down as unconstitutional Rule 3(b) of the Kerala Hindu Places of Public Worship Rules, 1965, which allowed the exclusion of women on the grounds of custom.
Questions for consideration: The 7 questions for consideration before the court are:
- What is the scope and ambit of the right to freedom of religion under Article 25 of the Constitution of India?
- What is the interplay between the rights of persons under Article 25 of the Constitution and the rights of religious denominations under Article 26?
- Whether the rights of a religious denomination under Article 26 of the Constitution are subject to other provisions of Part III of the Constitution, apart from public order, morality and health?
- What is the scope and extent of the word ‘morality’ under Articles 25 and 26 of the Constitution, and whether it is meant to include constitutional morality?
- What is the scope and extent of judicial review with regard to a religious practice as referred to in Article 25 of the Constitution?
- What is the meaning of the expression “Sections of Hindus” occurring in Article 25 (2) (b) of the Constitution?
- Whether a person not belonging to a religious denomination or religious group can question a practice of that religious denomination or religious group by filing a PIL?
CJI: Thank you Mr Vaidyanathan
Vaidyanathan: Denominations should have the same right as minorities is the submission
Vaidyanathan: Religious denomination rights are not merely in regard to temples and institutions of that kind but even in regard to educational institutions
Vaidyanathan: 25 (2) (b) talks only in regard to Hindu public temples not in regard to places of worship of other religion
Vaidyanathan: I am making a submission that shirur mutt is right
CJI: We will wait for another 5-10 minutes, please wind up
Justice Nagarathna: Leave aside Sabarimala controversy, everybody must have access to every temple and mutt. But if you say it is a practice, it is a matter of religion that i will exclude only my section, my denomination attend my temple that is not good for Hinduism. Keep that in mind.
Justice Aravind Kumar: You will be dividing society.
Justice Nagarathna: Yes
Vaidyanathan: I understand.
Vaidyanathan: Please see (refers to judgment) "No outside authority has any right to say that these are not essential parts of religion"
Vaidyanathan: 25 (2) (b) is a merely an enabling provision to make a law therefore how that can control 26 (b)
Vaidyanathan explains the 'constitutional relationship' between 25 (2) (b) and 26 (b)
Vaidyanathan: Whether it is religious in character or secular in character is a test for determining whether a law can be made but not whether that particular practice is essential to the religion. That is not a matter which can be considered be the courts.
My lords will not therefore entertain such questions as to whether this is essential to the religion that is a mater for the religion themselves to decide.
Vaidyanathan now addresses the court on scope and extent of judicial review with regard to religious practice
Vaidyanathan refers to a judgment
Bench: According to you constitutional morality cannot be used for interpretation?
Vaidyanathan: Yes
Vaidyanathan now addresses on 'morality'
Article 16 deals with equality of opportunity in public employment. Article 16 (5) says-Nothing in this article shall affect the operation of any law which provides that the incumbent of an office in connection with the affairs of any religious or denominational institution or any member of the governing body thereof shall be a person professing a particular religion or belonging to a particular denomination.
Vaidyanathan: This is not treated as a secular office. It is treated differently
Vaidyanathan refers to Article 16 (5) of constitution
Vaidyanathan: 25 to 28..... stand on a slightly different footing
CJI: 17 is a powerful declaration
Vaidyanathan: Article 17, 23, 24 form a separate group
Vaidyanathan: 25 2 b is a power given to the state to make a law. It is not a fundamental right
Vaidyanathan: 25 (2) (b) expressly creates a kind of an exclusion only in regard to the individual rights under article 25 and not in regard to the denominational right under article 26
Vaidyanathan: Article 25 is not treated as a right which can be exercised horizontally......An individual saying that i can exercise this right against other individuals who have another kind of belief that kind of horizontal right is not available
Vaidyanathan: Individual may have a different point of view but his point of view cannot be allowed to prevail in a manner that the collective beliefs is destroyed. The religious denomination beliefs are destroyed because individual rights is asserted.
Vaidyanathan refers to Justice P. Jaganmohan Reddy in Kesavananda Bharati judgment
Vaidyanathan: There can be temples which are not public temples
Vaidyanathan: 25 (2) is only an enabling provision. We are comparing one provision which gives an enabling power
Bench: You admit that 25 2 has to be read along with 26
Vaidyanathan: No. I Don't
Vaidyanathan: If you want to go to a temple or institution belonging to a particular......then you must believe in that sampradaya
Vaidyanathan: We don't have a system of pope, archbishop
Bench: There are Hindus who can belong to several sampradayas they can visit several temples but if the Hindus want to visit a particular temple the sampradaya which is attached to the temple must be followed.
Vaidyanathan: In Sabarimala no distinction is made. There is no bar to Christians and Muslims entering. They can also go but they must have the faith and belief in the divinity of Ayyappa.
Vaidyanathan: Sampradaya means it can refer to the doctrine and it can refer to sects
Vaidyanathan: With greatest respect I appeal to kindly overrule this part the test in regard to religious denomination which has been laid down as if it is mandatory.... I respectfully submit its incorrect
Vaidyanathan: What is our concept of understanding a religion. We never had anything like Hinduism as the term for our religion. It was Sanatana Dharma
Vaidyanathan now makes submissions on religious denomination
Vaidyanathan: 25 (2) (b) is a targeted social reform provision not religious reforms I am going to deal with it in separate note
Vaidyanathan: We have in our history had institutions exclusively for girls, exclusively for boys . There are today a large number of co-ed institutions but nobody wanted to make it mandatory or to enable parliament legislature to make laws which make it compulsory that it should be co-ed. Therefore that part was kept out. I am just giving an analogy
Vaidyanathan: 25 (2) will have to be explained as there is a slight divergence between us and what central government has presented
Court assembles after break
Court to resume hearing shortly.
Senior advocate CS Vaidyanathan will resume submissions. He is appearing on behalf of different review petitioners- Nair service society which has been representing the devotees, Ayyappa Seva Samajam, Kerala Kshethra Samrakshana Samithi (devotees organisation in Kerala), and Hindu Dharma Acharya Sabha.
Court rises for lunch break
CJI: We will continue at 2pm.
Bench: Doesn't depend on constitution giving it or taking away
Vaidyanathan: This is a right. Right is not conferred for the first time under the constitution. It is pre-existing. It is only recognised.
Vaidyanathan: Though we are not worshipping the idol, we are worshipping the...Ultimately it is the supreme being that we worship but through the form of this idol. This has been in our Sampradaya this has been in our sanatana dharma which has been well established well recognised.
Senior advocate CS Vaidyanathan begins submissions. He is appearing on behalf of different review petitioners- Nair service society which has been representing the devotees, Ayyappa Seva Samajam, Kerala kshethra samrakshana samithi (devotees organisation in Kerala), and Hindu dharma acharya sabha.
ASG Nataraj concludes his submissions
ASG: If article 26 is construed as narrow compass then no institution whether mosque church temple will not get any protection under constitution, complete protection which we get its only from article 26
ASG: If the deity has a particular manifestation to follow a particular practice or custom that transfer into the right of devotees as well
ASG: Protecting right of deity amounts to protecting right of devotee
ASG: Once a practice is essential to religious the role of court is limited
Bench: According to you matter of religion has to be given broad interpretation
ASG: Broad interpretation
ASG: An example-A person says that I want to have non-vegetarian food, he can't go to denominational temple and say yes i have the right to particular non-vegetarian food
He has no such right to invade the rights of those believers under that denomination or religion. Similarly, liquor. In some temples, liquor is given as prasadam. Tomorrow, one cannot object by saying that liquor should not be given as teertha or prasadam in a particular temple.
ASG: You can protect your right as a non-believer. You can go to the court or you can say anywhere this is my right to not to believe
ASG: When there is diversity, you must respect everyone, the right of every individual has to be respected.
Bench: An atheist propounding his right under 25 1, whether he or will he not be subjected the sampradaya collective faith of matters under 26
ASG: He cannot question somebody's right
ASG: We need not define what would be constitutional morality, what is morality, what is standard of morality we need not define because constitutional itself guides us to take it as public morality and that has to be followed
ASG: 25 (2) controls both 25 (1) and 26
Bench: Please don't say controls
ASG: enabling provision
Bench: When it is a conflict between the state right under 25 and the right of a denomination that is where the question of essential religious practice comes in
ASG: Article 26 cannot be read as a standalone island
ASG: All the articles under constitution especially part 3 will have to be harmoniously construed. Nothing can be read in isolation
ASG: When it comes to judicial scrutiny whether this is a particular sampradaya is correct or not that cannot be assessed by an external body
ASG: Next i am coming to the scope of matters of religion
ASG: Religion itself can be called a sampradaya
ASG: A group of people they may follow a particular sampradaya and if that according to their belief, collective belief, that has to be protected It is with reference to article 25 1
ASG: It is ultimately standard of classification. The classification not preferable to the denomination relating to a particular religion and the section thereof. It is a form of collective group, the collective expression of a group or the collective right of the group and have a common belief
ASG: Denomination is an English word that is employed in constitution but when it comes to Indian landscape it is called sampradaya
ASG refers to Article 394 A
Bench: Are you putting it in a very plain term that whatever is your internal religious belief the external manifestation is also protected
ASG: Yes
Bench: How can it be? It is fine internally, yes, that is yours. The moment your external manifestation affects the rights of others, then how can it be protected? That has to be tested.
ASG: Subject to Part III. Part III immediately steps in.
Bench: We cannot say that whatever internal belief you carry, you externalise it and that will be protected.
ASG: We have to read both harmoniously when it comes to religious
ASG: Both can be regulated by invoking 25 (2)
CJI: 25 is individual, 26 is a group...
ASG: 25 and 26 are two facets of same coin, religious right. One is relating to an individual right, the other one relating to institutional right to form association
Bench: To summarise what you saying that 26 b is a subset of 25 1
ASG: It is not subset
ASG Nataraj: Religious practices are to be internally assessed....whether it is essential religious practice has limited scope
ASG Nataraj: Article 25 and 26 must be harmonised
ASG Nataraj reads written submissions
Now ASG KM Nataraj addresses the court on behalf of Union
SG Mehta: My arguments is confined to questions framed
SG Mehta: I have given instance of temples where men are not allowed. There are male priests who are under religious mandate to wash the feet of female devotees. There is one temple in Kerala where the system is that man will go dressed as women.
It is not male centric or female centric religious beliefs. In this particular incident it happens to be women centric.
SG Mehta begins arguments
SG Mehta: Sabarimala judgment proceeds on assumption that men are superior...and women on a lower pedestal
Day 3 hearing begins
Before Day 3 hearing commences, Supreme Court is holding full court reference in memory of former judge Justice SP Kurdukar
During the Day 2 hearing, the court had questioned how persons who are not devotees of Lord Ayyappa could challenge the temple custom.
“What follows from what you have said just now. The writ petitioners, the original writ petitioners as we have understood are not the devotees. No devotee has approached this court challenging this. Then who is the writ petitioner who is assailing this? Who is the original writ petitioner,” Justice Nagarathna asked.
Mehta clarified that the original petitioner was the Indian Young Lawyers Association, a point on which the Bench pressed further, questioning their personal connection to the temple.
“They are not devotees…First let us be clear. Can any devotee of Ayyappa file a writ petition challenging it? No. If a non-devotee, a person who is not concerned with that temple, challenges it, can this court entertain the writ petition?”, the court asked.
Responding to Mehta's submission, the court stated that it has the right and jurisdiction in judicial review to hold what is superstition, and what will follow is for the legislature how to deal with it.
During the hearing yesterday, Solicitor General Tushar Mehta appearing for the centre said that a secular court cannot determine whether a religious practice amounts to superstition.
A nine judge bench headed by CJI Surya Kant will resume hearing the petitions relating to discrimination against women at religious places, including the Sabarimala temple, and the scope of religious freedom under the Constitution.

