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Karnataka floor test highlights: Speaker adjourns house, says trust vote by 6 pm Tuesday

While the Opposition BJP has 105 MLAs in the House and the support of two Independents, the ruling coalition has 101 MLAs on its side on paper

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Karnataka Chief Minister HD Kumaraswamy with his deputy G Parameshwara during Assembly Session at Vidhana Soudha, in Bengaluru. (PTI Photo)

Karnataka floor test highlights: Setting a new deadline of 6 pm Tuesday to complete the vote, Karnataka Speaker K R Ramesh Monday adjourned the house. Earlier in the day, Speaker K R Ramesh had expressed his discontent over wasting time in the name of discussion. “People are watching. In the name of discussion, if an opinion is created that we are wasting time, it won’t be right on my part or anybody else’s,” he had said.

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Amid the ongoing chaos in the Assembly by the BJP leaders, a letter, that appeared to be that of the resignation of Karnataka CM Kumaraswamy, surfaced on Monday and was circulated on social media spreading rumours of the chief minister putting down his papers. However, terming it a “cheap level of publicity”, Kumaraswamy said the letter was fake and his signature had been forged. “I got the information that I have tendered my resignation to the governor. I don’t know who is waiting to become the CM. Someone has forged my signature and spread the same on social media. I’m shocked at the cheap level of publicity,” news agency ANI quoted the CM as saying.

The Supreme Court, meanwhile, refused to give an early hearing to the plea of two Independent Karnataka MLAs seeking directions to the Speaker to conclude the floor test before 5 pm today. A bench headed by Chief Justice Ranjan Gogoi said, “Impossible. We have never done this before. Tomorrow we may see to it.”

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Congress' R V Deshpande appeals to Yeddyuruppa to adjourn House for the day, Speaker rejects

Senior Congress leader RV Deshpande appealed to BJP's BS Yeddyurappa to let the House be adjourned for the day. But Speaker Ramesh rejected his appeal saying that he has to keep his promise that he made on Friday that the process of confidence motion would be completed today.

We've an incumbent ruling and outgoing ruling party, says Speaker Ramesh trying to bring House back in order

Karnataka Assembly Speaker KR Ramesh tries to bring the House back in order. He says, "This is a question of the survival of a ruling government. There is no ruling and opposition party here. Instead, we have an incumbent ruling (party) and an outgoing ruling (party) here. This is the problem. In a parliamentary democracy, if there were to be a clear distinction between a ruling party and an opposition party, it is very easy for a Speaker to arrive at a decision. (But), we have reached a very difficult state. My only misfortune is (that) I am presiding over these proceedings."

Congress' U T Khader says not ready for trust vote; BJP MLAs requests speaker to count votes

"Whatever it may be, we are not ready for a vote of confidence today. It is practically and humanly not possible," Urban Development minister UT Khader says, to which BJP MLAs reply, "We are ready." Legislators from the opposition raise hands and requests deputy speaker to count the votes. Ruckus continues in Vidhana Soudha.

Debate in Karnataka Assembly over whether to coninue session after dinner

Karnataka Assembly still active. Ruckus in the House as legislators debate whether to continue session after dinner or resume tomorrow morning. "We can even start tomorrow at 9 am, many of us including BJP's B S Yeddyurappa are diabetic patients," Congress MLAs.

Congress-JD(S) coalition government 'unholy': C T Ravi

Terming the Congress-JD(S) alliance in Karnataka 'unholy', BJP's C T Ravi said if leaders of the coalition, who are now willing to speaking on confidence motion, had worked for people, they wouldn't have had to prove their government's majority in the assembly. 

Speaker has given time to rebel MLAs till 11 am tomorrow: D K Shivakumar

Congress' D K Shivakumar said Speaker has served notice to rebel MLAs, giving them time till 11 am Tuesday. "BJP is trying to convince them that they won't be disqualified & they will be made ministers. As per Constitution of India, you can't be made a member once you're disqualified," he added.

Kumaraswamy says fake letter being circulated on his resignation

"I got information that I have tendered my resignation to the Governor. I don't know who is waiting to become CM. Someone has forged my signature & spread the same on social media. I'm shocked at the cheap level of publicity," said CM HD Kumaraswamy.

Kumaraswamy's resignation letter fake: Karnataka CMO

A letter was seen to be kept on the table of CM H D Kumaraswamy at Vidhana Soudha, appearing to be his resignation letter. Chief Minister's Office (CMO) said the letter is fake.

Don't push me to take a decision without asking you: Speaker K R Ramesh

Replying to HK Patil's statement, Speaker K R Ramesh says, "Don't push me to a point where I'll have to take a decision without asking you. The consequences will be disastrous."

Debating over confidence motion right only after Supreme Court takes a decision: Congress' HK Patil

Congress MLA  HK Patil says speaking and debating over confidence motion will be right only after Supreme Court takes a decision Tuesday.  "After the Supreme Court takes a decision tomorrow, then it'll be right to speak and debate on this issue," he said. 

‘Didn’t eat biryani’, says Kumaraswamy on photo with IMA scam accused

Amid allegations by the BJP that he had a role in the escape of IMA ponzi scam accused Mohammed Mansoor Khan, Chief Minister HD Kumaraswamy Monday said he “did not eat biryani” with him. Kumaraswamy’s response came in an apparent reference to a picture of him purportedly showing sharing a meal with Khan. Read more...

BS Yeddyurappa seeks to go ahead with confidence motion

BS Yeddyurappa says, " We didn't protest when they (Congress-JDS) were speaking. Siddaramaiah,CM&you(Speaker)promised floor test on Monday. When our chief Whip was called,we stated we'll be here till late night till all debates conclude.Please allow us to go ahead with confidence motion."

Discussion underway in Assembly on when to hold trust vote

Discussion is underway in the Assembly on when to hold the trust vote.

Kumaraswamy holding CM's post unconstitutionally: BJP

Kumaraswamy is holding the post of chief minister unconstitutionally, tweets BJP.

CM promised to finish it (trust vote) today, will be in House till 12 am: Yeddyurappa

BJP's BS Yeddyurappa said, "CM had promised that he will finish it (trust vote) today and prove the majority today. Now I've spoken to Sunil, the chief whip, over finishing it today. We will be in the house till 12 am," ANI reported.

Karnataka assembly session resumes after 2-hour break.

Karnataka assembly session resumes after 2-hour break. During the break, the Speaker held two rounds of meeting — one each with BJP and Congress-JD(S) MLAs.

Karnataka Speaker holds a meeting with CM Kumaraswamy and other leaders of Congress-JD(S) alliance

Speaker KR Ramesh Kumar holds a meeting with Chief Minister Kumaraswamy, Karnataka Deputy CM G Parameshwara, Sa Ra Mahesh (JDS), Krishna Byre Gowda (Congress) & Siddaramaiah (Congress), in his chamber at Vidhana Soudha, Bengaluru.

Karnataka Speaker holds meeting with BJP leaders

Speaker KR Ramesh Kumar holds a meeting with BJP leaders-Sunil Kumar, Basavaraj Bommai, CT Ravi & JDS leaders-Sa Ra Mahesh, HD Revanna, Bandeppa Kashempur, in his chamber at Vidhana Soudha, Bengaluru.

Floor test being delayed on one pretext or other: Advocate of independent MLAs

At the outset, senior advocate Mukul Rohatgi, appearing for the MLAs, said that he has filed a new petition in the Karnataka matter and it be heard either during the day or tomorrow on urgent basis.
"The floor test is being delayed on one pretext or the other," he said.
He said when the Congress-JD(S) coalition can take orders for holding of floor test earlier, then same order can be issued now.
The bench, which also comprised Justices Deepak Gupta and Aniruddha Bose, said, "Impossible (to list today). We have never done this before. Tomorrow we may see to it." (PTI)

SC to hear on Tuesday plea of 2 independent MLAs for immediate floor test

The Supreme Court will hear on Tuesday a fresh plea of two Independent Karnataka MLAs seeking holding of the floor test "forthwith" in the state Assembly on the trust motion moved by Chief Minister H D Kumaraswamy.
A bench headed by Chief Justice Ranjan Gogoi on Monday declined to hear during the day the plea by R Shankar and H Nagesh.
"On mentioning, the matter is taken on board. List the matter tomorrow before the appropriate bench as per the roster," the bench, also comprising Justices Deepak Gupta and Aniruddha Bose, said in its order. (PTI)

Karnataka assembly adjourned for 10 minutes following uproar by JD(S)-Congress MLAs

Karnataka assembly has been adjourned for 10 minutes following an uproar by the MLAs of JD(S)-Congress at the well of the House, reported ANI. However, MLAs continue to stay inside the Vidhana Soudha in Bengaluru even as the session has been adjourned for 10 minutes. Before the assembly was adjourned, the JDS and Congress members raised slogans saying, "we want
justice, we want discussion." They said the Supreme Court itsel had not shown urgency on the issue as it had refused urgent hearing of pleas by two independent MLAs for floor test forthwith.

Home Minister M B Patil calls official meeting with Commissioner of Police to discuss "zero traffic" issue

Karnataka Home Minister M B Patil calls an official meeting with Commissioner of Police, to discuss about the zero traffic reportedly provided to rebel MLAs when they returned to Bengaluru to meet the Speaker. JD(S) MLA, AT Ramaswamy had raised this matter in the Assembly today, reported ANI.

JD(S) MLA accuses state home minister of lying, walks out of Vidhana Soudha

JD(S) MLA AT Ramaswamy walked out of the Vidhana Soudha following state home minister MB Patil's statement on zero traffic reportedly given to rebel MLAs. Ramaswamy had said, "If Home Minister is lying blatantly in front of the House, how can I stay here?

Karnataka Home Minister M B Patil denies providing zero traffic to rebel MLAs

Karnataka Home Minister M B Patil denied providing zero traffic to the rebel MLAs. "Only because Governor had asked us to provide them (rebel MLAs) security, we did that. Zero traffic was not provided to them." Congress leader H K Patil said the home minister needs to investigate the matter. "Let the home minister investigate this again as everyone has seen how they were given zero traffic. MB Patil will have to gather more information and he has to find out who gave the permission," he said.

This is a big circus company, please cooperate, Speaker tells MLAs

Responding to MLA Ranganath's demand to let him speak in Karnataka Assembly, Speaker K R Ramesh said, "You had asked to give permission for 'backbenchers' to speak and as you said, I've been managing all 'tigers' sitting in the front. This is a big circus company, please cooperate."

Governor should take a decision, save democracy: P Muralidhar Rao

Calling upon the Karnataka governor to save democracy, Muralidhar Rao said, " Today a full stop should be put to all this, Governor should take a decision."

Congress-JD(S) violating constitutional rights, says BJP's P Muralidhar Rao

BJP National General Secretary P Muralidhar Rao accused the Congress-JD(S) of violating constitutional rights. "Democracy is being murdered. Court has allowed the 15 MLAs (rebel MLAs) that they may or may not be present there. They (Karnataka govt) don't have the number. They're in minority."

Never left JD(S), was expelled: Siddaramaiah in Vidhana Soudha

Siddaramaiah denied CT Ravi's allegations of him crossing over from JD(S) to Congress and said that he never left the party but was expelled. "CT Ravi doesn't have the proper info. I didn't leave JD(S), I was expelled. I didn't join Congress immediately. I was forming Ahinda party. I was expelled from JD(S) in May 2005. I joined Congress in 2006. Wrong info shouldn't be recorded here.

Karnataka Vidhan Soudha reconvenes

Karnataka Vidhan Soudha reconvenes. Speaker KR Ramesh Kumar says each member will speak only for 10 minutes. "Don’t make me say this again and again," he asserts.

Rebel MLAs said they aren't living comfartably, could have stayed back: Siddaramaiah

Congress leader Siddaramaiah said the Congress-JDS alliance is ready to prove majority in Vidhana Soudha and the Karnataka Speaker will take the call on the confidence motion. "Speaker will take a call on confidence motion. We have already told that we will prove the confidence in Vidhana Soudha. Case is pending in Supreme Court. We have also filed the petition, most probably tomorrow Supreme Court will hear our plea," he said. He also claimed that the dissident MLAs have said they have not been living comfortably and expressed the feeling that they could have stayed back. "If the rebel MLAs come back then they will be with us. Rebels have told (us) that they are not living comfortably, they could have stayed back here itself," Siddaramaiah added. 

Karnataka crisis: What is a whip? What does it do?

A whip in parliamentary parlance is a written order that party members be present for an important vote, or that they vote only in a particular way. The term is derived from the old British practice of “whipping in” lawmakers to follow the party line. The importance of a whip can be inferred from the number of times an order is underlined. 

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Karnataka Assembly session adjourned till 3.30 PM

The Karnataka Assembly session has been adjourned for lunch break. Proceedings will resume at 3.30 PM.

First decide on disqualification, then hold floor test: Karnataka minister tells Speaker

Karnataka Congress minister Krishna Byre Gowda insisted that the Speaker should make a decision on the disqualification of rebel MLAs first and then hold the trust vote

Resign and go: BJP's message to H D Kumaraswamy

The BJP Monday asked Karnataka Chief Minister H D Kumaraswamy "to resign and go" if he has faith in the Constitution and people of the state. The BJP said Kumaraswamy himself moved the confidence motion but the trust process was still prolonging. On its Facebook page, the BJP said, "If at all you have faith and respect for the Constitution and the people of the state, you resign and go home." The BJP ran a hashtag in Kannada, "people of the state will not forgive you."

Why is BJP not accepting that it is in touch with rebel MLAs: DK Shivakumar

Launching an attack on the BJP, senior Congress leader DK Shivakumar said, "Why is the BJP not accepting it wants the chair? Why are they not accepting the fact that they are behind 'operation lotus'? They should accept that they have spoken to these(rebel) MLAs."

Trust vote should not be delayed further, will not bring respect to House or me: Karnataka Speaker

The proceedings were adjourned till Monday after the Speaker extracted a commitment from the government that the process would be completed by Monday itself. "It will not bring respect to the House or to me," the Speaker made his position clear, implying that the trust vote should not be delayed further. "We are in public life. People are watching. In the name of discussion, if an opinion is created that we are wasting time, it won't be right on my part or anybody else's," he said.

PIL in Karnataka High Court over 'deliberate delay' of trust vote

Anand Murthy, an advocate, has filed PIL in Karnataka High Court, alleging that trust vote is being deliberately delayed, reported news agency ANI

BJP insists on completing trust vote process today itself

The BJP has insisted on completing the trust vote process today itself as Karnataka Assembly proceedings begin. BJP state chief B S Yeddyurappa said, “Kumaraswamy has been saying he does not want to stick on to the chief minister’s chair. In the past three days, it has been apparent to the people of Karnataka the extent to which he is stuck to the chief minister’s chair.”

Congress leader and State Minister DK Shivakumar arrive at Karnataka Assembly

Keep dignity of Assembly alive in speeches today: Karnataka Speaker

Addressing the House, Speaker said, " I will have to pass a ruling today. I was delayed as I was checking the Supreme Court order. In your speeches, today, make sure that the dignity of Assembly is kept alive. These are time stalling tactics being used. It harms the image of Assembly, Speaker and also the image of you as MLAs."

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Karnataka BJP president BS Yeddyurappa holds a meeting with party MLAs at a resort in Bengaluru on Sunday. (PTI)

The Congress-JDS alliance, which is on the brink of collapse in Karnataka, held emergency meetings over the weekend and made last-ditch attempts to woo back the rebel MLAs. But the MLAs, few of whom are camping in Mumbai, sent out a video message saying they would not budge from their decision to resign and withdraw support to the coalition.

The confidence motion was moved on Thursday but the vote did not take place despite two deadlines set by Governor Vajubhai Vala.  Stung by the resignation of 15 MLAs, the strength of Kumaraswamy government in the 225-member Assembly will likely slip to 102 MLAs. In comparison, the opposition BJP has 105 MLAs and the support of two Independents. In a relief for the government, BSP chief Mayawati has directed her party's lone one legislator in Karnataka to side with the alliance.

Despite their numbers not adding up to a majority, members of the coalition have insisted that the government will win the trust vote. “We are confident that we will be able to save the government,” JD(S) MLA D C Gowrishankar said.

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"We thought this government will do good to the state but it did not happen. There is no question of our attending the assembly session tomorrow," rebel JD(S) MLA K Gopalaiah said in a video, flanked by ten other legislators. A H Vishwanath, who resigned as the JD(S) state president following the Lok Sabha election debacle, said "the demonic politics in the name of the coalition has done no good to the people and compelled the MLAs to resign."

BJP state chief B S Yeddyurappa said, “Kumaraswamy has been saying he does not want to stick on to the chief minister’s chair. In the past three days, it has been apparent to the people of Karnataka the extent to which he is stuck to the chief minister’s chair.”