'Any normal, pragmatic PM or politician would not have done what he has done'

Thank you Shekhar

•You know this walk the talk has taken a long time happening because we always keep looking for the right moment.

okay. No problem.

•And sometimes it start we try to avoid a moment but I think this is a moment we could not have avoided.

Thank you very much.

•So any time is as good as any to talk

Yes very good…very well said.

•So how do you look at ur situation—a complete turnaround …from being completely isolated to the centre of attraction.

I don’t think that I have become centre of attraction Shekhar because …it’s a matter of…of perception for outsiders. How they look at it. As far as I am concerned I was not very sad when I was not centre of attraction and I am not very euphoric when I become centre of attraction because it is very perceptional it is not real and…

•But perceptions matter in public life…

Yes. it matters and of course in public life or in any life…. even in business… perception…

•Public life, corporate life

Corporate life

•Social life

Social life

•Politico-public-corporate-social life isn’t it?

Yes, Yes I agree with you. So I am not denying that but you ask me how do I feel? I don’t feel anything great because when perception was not that good…

•But aren’t u feeling smart that you caused this turnaround to happen

No…you may not agree and others will also not agree. It is not a situation that is personally created by me. It is circumstantial…this has just happened and credit for this should go to our progressive leftist friends not to me. They are the creator of this situation and not me.

•Progressive? Quote, unquote?

No no..

•No

Its. Iam not sayin ……they are progressive

•Not? (………)..so why should credit go to them?

Because had there been their support and if they had not rocked their boat, there would have been no necessity and value of Samajwadi party support and without any necessity from our end

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