Renuka Shahane’s Facebook post on Indo-Pak relations will get you thinking

In her latest post, Renuka Shanae addresses the questions about India and Pakistan relations that many Indians have in their minds.

By: Express Web Desk | New Delhi | Published:October 17, 2016 6:40 pm
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Of late, Renuka Shahane, the beautiful actress known for her role in Hum Aapke Hain Koun has been quite active on social media, using the space to comment on socially and politically important issues. Previously, her posts have addressed the Salman Khan rape comment, Irom Sharmila’s grit and France’s burkini ban, creating quite a buzz each time.

In her latest post, Shahane pointed out some important issues that the world and India has been dealing with. Of course, Donald Trump’s mention makes it to the post! She calls Trump out for his statement in a recent interview that he would like to see India and Pakistan to get along with each other, and gives him a fitting reply.

She moves on to talk about issues closer home — that of India and Pakistan. In a single post, the 50-year-old actress raises questions that are plaguing many, especially about the neighbourly relations between India and Pakistan. This comes when the country stands divided on opinion about any exchange between both nations, with Karan Johar’s latest Ae Dil Hai Mushkil facing the most heat, with people protesting its release because it stars Pakistani actor Fawad Khan. She raises the question that should the prey of “nationalism” be only cultural exchanges, when industrialists and big business houses should also show their solidarity with the martyrs.

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Read the full text of Shahane’s post here.

“Donald Trump said in an interview yesterday that he would really like India & Pakistan to get along. Before I comment on this I’d really like to see Trump getting along with Hillary, with Mexicans, with African Americans, with Muslims, with all those who oppose his views. When it comes to advice it’s so easy & simple to give but to take it becomes so difficult isn’t it?
So let’s talk India-Pakistan. How exactly are we supposed to get along? Have we ever educated ourselves on both sides about getting along? Are we taught virtues of Pakistan in our textbooks as school students. Ever since I remember, even before the terrorism sponsored by Pakistan in Punjab & then in Kashmir we had fought and won two wars against Pakistan. How does one establish a ‘friendly’ attitude with a country we’ve fought wars with? Diplomatically we’ve kept on meeting for years & years & yet our Samjhauta had to face a Kargil. So many soldiers have been martyred all these years & yet diplomacy, trade & business continues. When PM Modi invited Nawaz Sharif for his swearing-in ceremony & subsequently his famous ‘biryani’ detour, all of us hailed it as a master stroke in diplomacy thinking that finally, we’ll start getting along.
Instead we got Pathankot, Gurdaspur, Uri. It is sickening! Was that diplomatic detour just so that some industrialist gets a better deal in Pakistan ( as I’ve heard from the grapevine….but then all grapevines have sour grapes these days so you never know). If there are certain Indian businesses & businessman thriving in Pakistan would they be considered anti-national now by the greatest nationalists on Newshour?
Will all the political parties who have demanded that no Pakistani actors be allowed to work in India, make a noise about them too? In fact why has that not happened? Would they ask for a ban on these businesses? After all if Karan Johar is asked to sacrifice the release of Ae Dil Hai Mushkil, shouldn’t business houses and Industrialists also show solidarity with the soldiers who’ve lost their lives?
Is our “nationalism” about soft targets to lynch?
Does it have to do with our sheer helplessness & inability to stop cross border terrorism?
The Centre announced yesterday that the Govt will not stop giving visas to Pakistani actors to come & work in India.
As a consequence, is our Govt anti-national?
I for one have no hesitation in saying that there should be no exchanges of Art & Culture between the two countries till things become normal. Because I feel these exchanges are random & determined more by commercial aspects rather than a vision of bridging the trust gap between the two countries. More often than not people who want peace on both sides are the one’s who invite each other. Its like convincing the convinced! But it never percolates to those who do not want peace. These exchanges don’t help overcome the hate that most people on both sides have for each other. This hate that has started at the school level is very difficult to eradicate with random acts of cultural exchange.
Effective peace can only be brought out politically. If politicians have the will to bring about peace.
Meanwhile Army jawan Sepoy Sudhees Kumar lost his life at the LOC yesterday.
We cannot afford these colossal losses of lives. We need to desperately get along with our neighbours. But we can’t do that when the whole country has been brought to an anti Pakistan pitch & fervour. Our political representatives need to get rid of being in perpetual election mode & come together, sort out a plan & start anew with a diplomacy about Pakistan where everyone agrees. Unless the Left, Right & Centre come together to agree on a national policy vis-a-vis Pakistan we will be directionless, make no headway & our jawaans will continue to lose their precious lives. If we hate each other within our country, we will never be able to get rid of the hate outside.
If we look at Pakistan like Hamlet, ” I will trust as I will adders fang’d” then be prepared for many Rosencrantzs & Guildensterns to die.
Our soldiers will be martyred again & again much more because our politicians can’t rise above their politics rather than any other reason.
Shouldn’t we expect them to practice what they preach?
Shouldn’t we expect them to be truly nationalistic?
With all the religious leaders in our country shouldn’t we send them all to the border to try & bring about peace religiously? They will do us all a big service if they can stop our soldiers from losing their lives don’t you think?
When all religions practice & extol the virtues of peace, why can’t the religious heads practice that religion?
What stops them from “getting along”?
So first step is to get along with each other.
Second step, the policy vis-a-vis our neighbours has to be determined by our Govt with a consolidated political will.
Third step, cultural, literal, business & sports exchanges developed by the Govts of both countries. These can then happen without fear of repercussions ( aka Ae Dil Hai Mushkil)
Fourth step, rewriting the History books on both sides
Er…..you stopped reading at the first step?
That pretty much sums up the problem then!
Does anybody want peace?”

This is the Facebook post.

Shahane’s post has mostly garnered a lot of positive reaction. Many lauded her for pointing out the difference between trade relations and cultural exchanges between the two countries. “What you said is absolutely correct .. Industries is a different joint compared to Art and cultural activities . Which joins the dot to every corner of the country Pakistan and India,” one user commented; “I personally do not agree with the non-percolation of culture part Between the two countries….Anyway, i oppose it because ‘IT IS ART FOR GODSAKE’ how did we come to forget that ??? If we oppose this then we have to oppose ask the jumpa lahiris and salman rushdis in the world… are we really going to do that ? Where is our objective judgement to see art for itself and to criticise and praise it fit what it is and not for anything else but that?!?! If we want to show our undying vote for our soilders lets do that by showing respect to their families… lets vote to make our policies protecting their interests stronger. What use is it to ban a film?” wrote another.

Much like Shahane’s previous posts, this one too has generated a lot of debate, and is being shared widely.

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    Onkar Singh
    Oct 18, 2016 at 12:37 am
    Winning elections through Jumleybazi is what Modi and his coteries are interested in.Country is only an excuse.Otherwise this PM Modi has the cheek to play politics over the dead bodies of the soldiers.Think how low he can stoop.While he crying to avenge the blood of the soldiers,his govt is putting out a circular to reduce the pension of soldiers incapacitated in war or action.Does this happen? Should this happen? If no.Then question this PM why he is such a sly fox? These pseudo desh bhakts will get our soldiers killed on the borders only to win elections.Since Modi is a failure as a PM,he has no qualms of playing politics with the bodies of the dead soldiers.Renuka is right we must have a policy in the first place.What she forgot to question is how long will these RSS guys divide the country to keep themselves in power.We have throw this rotten lot out.When 80 per cent of the potion is in poverty he is trying to show off.Get your act together to do something to get the people out of this mess.There is no public spending to increase jobs.No govt projects.How is he going to create demand.He thinks Adani and Ambanis will create jobs.He is mistaken,and so is Aravind Panigraya.Talks will not move the country out of the rot.
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      NitinB
      Oct 17, 2016 at 2:24 pm
      This was an ordinary post. She is probably paying media houses to cover her. Attention seeker
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        Swadhyay
        Oct 17, 2016 at 2:54 pm
        You will not be able to Change stubborn and Hindu hatred stan to change in million years. Accepts the reality . Stop all exchanges and diplomatic connection with stan, behave as we have no good neighbor. I have seen where neighbors haven't spoken to each other for generations. Think as if stan does not exist. If they want to buy from India let them buy but keep to tradesns. only. No social or sports, movie etc contacts . stan can live without us and we can live without them. They do not need us and we don't need them. Indians should get United and speak with one voice for the good of the country. Can't afford to loose our jawans, .
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          Ramesh suthar
          Oct 17, 2016 at 5:51 pm
          Mera to ek hi kehna hai ,'' Jio aur Jine Do''
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            Augd
            Oct 18, 2016 at 6:34 am
            Renuka must study the matter thoroughly before offering her social media comments which are not taken seriously for the obvious reasons that it is a comment made by an artist on a por social media format, the problem is far more complicated then it appears, what ever long term solution we may consider now will have a much wider political implications for this region and the w of south east asia, Even if India decides to offer some concessions, the problem will not resolve, If we go back in history and see the facts that we won the 1971 war and gave back the land of kashmir retrieved at the end of the war, Also note Pak will not remain satisfied with just minor give and take, but will continue to further escalate, the Islamic world would not stop till the w world is lt;br/gt;made to follow Islam mind you, and on the other side china will grap the opportunity by trying to pressurise India on north and north east, Pls Pls let,s not express opinion criticising rather let,s support and come out in full solidarity with the Govt which is visibly trying to put things in place as compared to the earlier govt
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              Bhogendra Thakur
              Oct 17, 2016 at 3:53 pm
              Warmongering is flavour of the season.
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                bhanojirao, p.
                Oct 17, 2016 at 1:41 pm
                Our total relations with that terror nation to be terminated. This is the high time to take the decision.
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                  moti
                  Oct 17, 2016 at 10:11 pm
                  How can this happen until RSS and VHP are on board. They want monopoly over India. So no chance on Indian side. For stan all those religious fundamentalists and Military.lt;br/gt;Let us pray. Modi can't rise above RSS that is obvious. Useless to expect anything from him.
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                    Karthik
                    Oct 19, 2016 at 6:36 am
                    Everyone in India are pained at the loss of our soldierslt;br/gt;we need to Ban all trade ties, all people to people contacts, and yes we want Govt to Ban these all.lt;br/gt;What choice do you think people have than current govt?lt;br/gt;If all are anti-nationalistic, we can pick the one that is less in degree.lt;br/gt;First we need to declare stan as a terror state in our own parliament.lt;br/gt;And any party that would like to oppose naming Pak as a terror state, may please start their career in stan and leave India.lt;br/gt;This madness from stan will stop when they are taught lesson.lt;br/gt;We do pity the plight of stani civilians, but deaths of our soldiers call for tougher action than to look at their plight.lt;br/gt;Enough chance is given to stan to mend their ways and shun their extreme ideologies, but seems like its falling on deaf ears.lt;br/gt;We stand by our soldiers.lt;br/gt;lt;br/gt;Nation First, Rest All Later,lt;br/gt;Jai Jawan Jai Kisan Jai Hind!
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                      Karthik
                      Oct 19, 2016 at 6:26 am
                      So easy to offer an advice renuka ji, what have you done to really bring the peace.lt;br/gt;We never taught hatred in our text books in India, but they have introduced jihad in their school texts, simply the difference.lt;br/gt;Teaching an animal would be better than teaching these savages.lt;br/gt;Please go and survive in stan for few weeks and then come out to speaklt;br/gt;when I saud survive, not by your media attention, but as a normal person out from fanfare.lt;br/gt;Just enter one of their madarssa wearing your sindhur, kangan and saree, and get lt;br/gt;back alive.lt;br/gt;No muslim will be stoned to death if he enters any Mandir in India, you cannot guarantee the same with Masjid's of stan simply the difference.lt;br/gt;What should we talk to the people who ban a doraemon, which could be just changed with remote
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                        Hariharan
                        Oct 17, 2016 at 1:51 pm
                        I agree with Renuka but then who listens to voice of reason.
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                          joseph
                          Oct 17, 2016 at 3:21 pm
                          What is so great about this post? Standard bhakt view. Why does not the govt enforce the ban? Why is it giving opportunity to thugs to enforce this ban?
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                            Kirit
                            Oct 17, 2016 at 9:33 pm
                            I do not oppose arts but I do oppose giving visa to stanis. India is a big country and I have difficult time to understand why Bollywood can not find actors and actresses from within India? If some one says because it i art, why can they do their art in stan? Art can also work with Indian actors and actresses. Most of Bollywood movies are commercial and it has nothing to do with art in the first place. Indian movies are third rate by international standard haphazardly put together.
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                              kris kumar
                              Oct 18, 2016 at 2:59 am
                              I think Renuka should go to Pak and speak to Hafiz Saed and ISI to behave like civilised and good neighbours and stop sending these illiterate terrorists to kill and then get killed. India have been trying very hard under all governments to improve the relation. Pak army obsession with Kashmir and their aim to keep the terrorists camps flourished will never bring peace but more hatred. Unfortunately we have so many Porkey lovers , pseudo secular and anti Modi, RSS and BJP brigade who for some unknown reasons want the Pak artists to come and make huge amount of money in India but could not careless about the soldiers being killed by their countrymen. It is shameless atude of some commercial film makers to defame the government even though majority of them support the government and the army. Blaming Modi has become the fashion for some goons.
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                                Lotus Valley
                                Oct 18, 2016 at 1:30 pm
                                Renuka Ji, please note that if stani actors had criticized Uri terrorist Attacks and that also without naming their country stan nobody would have opposed their working in Indian films. But this episode has exposed the hypocrisy of not only stani actors who show the solidarity with victims of Peshawar and Paris terrorists attacks but didn't utter a single word for terrorists activities in India but also the hypocrisy of Bollywood brigade who is supporting stani Actors in the name of art and culture which is nothing pure commerce. For last 69 years this cultural exchange has not changed the mindset of stan establishment so Bollywood will have to stop this art and culture rheotoric and show some solidarity with their own country and armymen, Saim and Sulaiman the music duo had also composed a song for the victims of Peshawar terrorist attacks but not a single word of India and its army. This shows the utter disregard Bollywood has for its own country and simply wants to make money by doing BHANDGIRI in the name of art and culture. Moreover stan doesn't believe in Humanity and practices barbarianism in the name of Islam and where children below 10 years of age in stani schools are taught hatred towards India and Aurangzeb (who killed his brothers and imprisoned his parents to become king) as the hero of stan, so nothing good can be expected from it. So far India is concerned, another round of MAHABHARAT YUDH is required where people of immense knowledge like Bhisma Pitamah and Guru Dronacharya but on the wrong side with Kauravas were also annihilated to protect dharma and human values.
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                                  manntu
                                  Oct 17, 2016 at 3:52 pm
                                  Madam has no knowledge about stan. stan Army survives as master in stan due to anti India stance ..Once you talk to civilian govt, another terror attack in line. First you make a policy how many attacks you do, talk will continue then may be it work or not. But just replace yourself with some survival family member of Jawan and then write this intellectual piece. lt;br/gt;Only solution to Pak is break pak into smaller countries and this will bring peace , stability and growth in entire region otherwise there is no peace ...
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                                    Mita
                                    Oct 17, 2016 at 2:34 pm
                                    Totally agree with you.
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                                      Nirmal
                                      Oct 30, 2016 at 4:01 am
                                      It's almost impossible to have peace with stan.Its a country born on racism that one section of people can't live with another section.There will be more haters in stan than in India.And stani political establishment is based on Kashmir issue.They will never allow peace to prevail in kashmir nor will they vaccate Kashmir illegaly they occupied.Its so simple logic.Celebrities like this who say we are taught anti stan sentimence must understand it's roots also.Its easy to say solutions but literally there is no solution.P stan will never compromise on anything.Its a rogue country by all aspects whether you like it or not.
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                                        Sudish Puthalat
                                        Oct 17, 2016 at 7:43 pm
                                        Go back to school and learn what the word bhakt means. It means devotee, unless for you it means something else. If so youcan spell it out
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                                          SUNNY
                                          Oct 19, 2016 at 2:29 pm
                                          WHEN " GHAR KA BHEDI LANKA DHAY" AKELA MODI KYA KAREGA..lt;br/gt;IT HAS BEEN INDIA'S HISTORY THAT DUE TO SOME GREEDY PEOPLE, INDIA LOST HER PRIDE AND SUPREMACY..lt;br/gt;WE INDIANS NEED TO SHARE ONE THOUGHT, BELIEVE OURSELVES AND UNIT FOR ONE CAUSE- 'BHARAT BHAGYA VIDHATA...'lt;br/gt;MADAM RENUKA HAS SHARED THE TRUTH THAT EVERY INDIAN SHOULD FEEL AND THINK LIKE WISE...lt;br/gt;ONE WHO IS KILLING OUR OWN BROTHERS AND SISTERS AND MAKING OUR MOTHERS CRY, CANNOT BE A FRIEND OR WELL-WISHER OF OURS...lt;br/gt;JAI HIND......
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