The government is accusing the opposition of disruption but the Congress and the JD(U) have pointed out that this is exactly what you had done when in opposition.
These people had given a notice for discussion on the very first day of the monsoon session. When we got ready to hold a discussion immediately, that put them on the back foot. That is because they are disturbing without homework and they have not thought of any exit route. They do not have a strategy to prevent embarrassment. That is why the very next day they have given a notice under rule 176 asking for resignations before discussion. In the entire history of Parliament, this is unprecedented. There is nothing called a conditional debate. We disrupted demanding discussion — JPC demand for 2G was a later development. Disruption is warranted if the government is arrogant and does not accede to the demand for discussion. As for the resignations by UPA ministers, they were not done to oblige the opposition. They were not left with any way out by a slew of court judgments.
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What is the way forward?
We want Parliament to function; we are talking to everybody to find a way out. But they have adopted an arrogant attitude that they will not talk. That is because they have started agitating without strategising about an exit route. No political party agitates without leaving an exit route.
Is the sting operation against the private secretary of the Uttarakhand chief minister a government ploy to put the Congress on the back foot?
That is a wrong perception. The sting was done by an individual. It has revealed the truth. If the Opposition wants to discuss state scams, there are many scams that we want discussed too. There was the Kerala (solar) scam, the issue of the huge scam of how money meant for the Uttarakhand floods was squandered, there is the Assam and Goa (Louis Berger) scam, there is the Karnataka scam and the Himachal power scam. We have given notice on all of these and would like to discuss them too.
So you want discussions only on the scams in Congress-ruled states?
We have also given one on West Bengal, not on Saradha but on the issue of the kidnapping of the young girl in Mograhat.
Sushma Swaraj had removed the words “foreign minister of India” from her Twitter bio. They are back but it fuelled speculation about her resignation.
There is no question at all of her resignation, the entire party is behind her. The country agrees that she did no wrong, she did not provide travel documents to anybody, did not help him escape from the country. She is told about how a person’s wife is suffering from cancer and asked whether allowing him to travel would affect India-UK relations. She merely said that it would not. She did not suppress it either.
Some Congress MPs have spoken out against disruptive tactics. Are you reaching out to them?
We are talking to everybody; it would not be fair to name anybody. Our stand is simple, let us debate, discuss for one day, two days, whatever you want. They are making a mountain when there is not even a molehill.
Is the government willing to make some changes to the land bill?
The bill is with the Joint Committee. I do not know what deliberations are happening there. We will wait for its report.