Muscular (J&K) policy to continue until violence ends: Top BJP leader

The BJP leader claimed that J-K Governor N N Vohra, who met Union Home Minister Rajnath Singh, had not advised the Central government to initiate a dialogue process.

Written by Liz Mathew | New Delhi | Updated: May 5, 2017 9:07 am
Kashmir, kashmir violence, jammu and kashmir, Muscular policy, j-K muscular policy, Kashmir valley, kashmir valley crisis, central government, BJP leader, Government of india, M K Narayanan, AS Dulat, NN Vohra, Rajnath singh, Bipin Rawat, Kashmir news, india news, indian express news The BJP leader said the policies followed by those who had taken this advice have failed. (Source: Express Photo By Shuaib Masoodi/File)

With two former security chiefs suggesting that the government should initiate talks to resolve the Kashmir crisis, a senior BJP leader on Thursday ruled out any dialogue as long as stone-throwing continues in the Valley. The leader also indicated that the Centre will continue what he called its “muscular policy” until violence abates in the region.

“Those who have given us suggestions have had enough time and opportunity to implement their ideas. The governments in the past have heard them too. But what has come out of it? Have they made some changes in the situation,” asked the leader.

He was reacting to suggestions made by former NSA M K Narayanan and former R&AW chief A S Dulat who have said that the government should initiate talks with different stakeholders in the Valley.

The BJP leader said the policies followed by those who had taken this advice have failed.

“Now, it’s our turn to get things in order. Let us handle the issue in the way we want,” he said.

Narayanan, in an article, said that the government should make an open and impassioned appeal for peace in the Valley. In an interview with The Indian Express, Dulat said: “…There is no military solution for Kashmir and that the Army should be kept away…Let me say that we have invited Pakistan back into the valley.”

The BJP leader claimed that Jammu and Kashmir Governor N N Vohra, who met Union Home Minister Rajnath Singh, had not advised the Central government to initiate a dialogue process. “His discussions were only on the state affairs,” the leader said.

The BJP’s line has been that the Centre and the Army should tackle militants and their sponsors with utmost toughness. Ruling out any possibility of talks with separatists, BJP General Secretary Ram Madhav, who had several rounds of discussions with ally PDP leaders, security officials and the BJP leaders in Jammu and Kashmir, said that the stone-pelters would be dealt with deftness so that violence is put down and loss of lives is prevented.

Asked if the government would change its stand and begin talks with stakeholders, Madhav told The Indian Express: “Talks and stone-pelting cannot go together. Stone pelting and street violence should stop first.”

The PDP has been in favour of dialogue with different stakeholders.

BJP leaders claim that only a “part of the state” is witnessing unrest and a small minority indulges in stone-pelting and violence. “There were times when things were worse in the state. Still, India as a state has prevailed,” the top leader said.

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    kaladadkalimata
    May 5, 2017 at 7:59 pm
    crying baby. India lost Kashmir already, just matter of time when is over.
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      autonomous
      May 6, 2017 at 12:36 pm
      A fool from fools paradise(P a k i s t a n) who still thinks earth is flat can't have vission nor wisdom .P a k i s t a n is gonna lose itself to chinese.
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      Citizen
      May 5, 2017 at 7:53 pm
      GOOOOOOOOOOOD continue the same until they know how to respect law & order and the uniformed people. Extend this to eliminate the other group who recently killed more than 20 uniformed guys.No talks and no mercy with ignorant fanatic barbaric s Uniformed people are also humans with families they are doing their job. Jaihind
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        Mathura
        May 5, 2017 at 5:50 pm
        NO BJP LEADER HAS OWNED THE NEWS. ONLY PAID FAKE R.umour S.preader S.pecialists are commenting without the ownership of the news by any BJPee leader of consequence. Fake news being circulated by the so called journalists having DNA of Fake newsmakers that starts with Z and ends with EE. If true we should remember Hitler who his level best tried to annhillate Jews with the false creation of notion of German race superiority but the end result was Germany divided and creation of Israel and death of large number germans and their ociates in the process. Hitler ended his life by commting sucide and his fellow supporters either committed sucide or were tried and punished for genocide.
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          autonomous
          May 6, 2017 at 12:48 pm
          Your story is altered from the fact it is the J&K "Pandits & sikh" who faced genocide crisis from radicalised J&K mob by pak and moved out of their own land.So ISRAEL & I N D I A both faces same problem now started cooperation against each other against the Genocide nation (p a k i s t a n) & its barbaric army soon pak will be neutralised for peace of the world.
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          Gopal Sriniwasan
          May 5, 2017 at 5:01 pm
          How much normalcy and peace existed when MKN as Ex NSA and ASD as Ex RAW Chief were in a position of Power. First, establish the writ of the Rule of the State and uphold Law and order.Give a free hand to the Security force without loss of life. Arrest all the stone pelters and move them out of the state and put them in Solitary confinement outside the state. Suspend political activities, Civil Liberty and put complete media ban for a period of 90 days. Let the state announce the abrogation of Art370 and take effective steps to get once and for all POK by force.
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            Damodar Biswal
            May 5, 2017 at 4:47 pm
            Dialogue only if stone pelting is stopped.Till then no mercy.Just treat all stone pelters r obstructionists n deal with them as per law.Those who support dialogue want to delay the process.
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              Kashmir
              May 5, 2017 at 7:09 pm
              We do not need dialogue. We will stone all Indian dogs to death.
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              Ananth
              May 5, 2017 at 4:24 pm
              Looks to be the most sensible approach at this point of time. How were the explosive situations in TN post 1965 Hindi agitation and in Punjab post Operation blue star or the North East insurgency. The first two were quelled through force hand and the last one brought to some semblance of stability with deft hand . Reading of the interview of Mr.Dulat other day in IE clearly established how little he seems to have learnt despite his long ociation and advocating to talk to whom, to a vacuum. Lesser about Mr.Narayanan based on his accomplishments. The problem today is the Kashmiris misreading of what rest of India wants with them and the state. Either they behave and live like rest of India or will have to keep on suffering the way they are doing now. People who burn schools are not worth talking to. No dialogue will help.
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                Yadoo
                May 5, 2017 at 3:17 pm
                Brothers, do not reply to these mullahs who are anti-Indian, anti-India, anti-Modi, anti-Hindu comments. Just start a new thread and make your point.
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                  SR
                  May 5, 2017 at 1:51 pm
                  It is not known as to what happens to these old critters after retirement., Both Narayanan and Dulat . They seem to advocate a course which is both illogical and un natural. Speak to the seperatists - on what ??? Talk to Stone pelters - on what ? Every time attention is paid to the people who currently live in Kashmir- Their aspirations, views , their sense of alienation etc etc. As a matter of fact their boss former HM P Ishrat Chidambaram in another interview had mischieeously suggested more autonomy as a solution to decrease the violence., All of them must be consigned to the dust bin for their rotten corrupt views. A military solution in Kashmir is very much possible. Remember what happened to the Khalis in Punjab and the Tamils in Sri Lanka. Here it is only the Valley which is 1/3 of the state of J&K and even in the Valley only 5 to 6 districts. No more molly codd of the treacherous rats infesting Kashmir.
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                    Ananth
                    May 5, 2017 at 4:28 pm
                    I second your apt view and correct reading of the situation.
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                      Joe
                      May 5, 2017 at 5:07 pm
                      You are being vague but suggesting genocide and there are international and Geo-political consequences if you are unconcerned about the ethics. You are looking till the tip of your nose if you think Sri lanka is some sort of beacon to be copied. Some people have bought into this joomla that we are already a superpower comparable to developed countries, our military as well as international diplomatic currency has limits. It does not suffice to compare our military abilities to stan's and then ume that this is such a clean solution.
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                        Joe
                        May 5, 2017 at 5:34 pm
                        Talk about what with stone pelters you ask. When did this situation get so bad in Kashmir? KAshmir has deteriorated to this degree of violence very recently. During peacetime no initiatives towards talks and a political resolution are pursued diligently and then when all brakes loose we ask how can we talk to violent people. It is a complicated issue there is blame on all sides and I'm not suggesting that more of the blame lies with the Government of India. Sure terrorists and criminals are milking this situation, but to suggest that all the angry kashmiris are either stani sympathizers, paid protestors or terrorists is disingenuous . If you submit the citizens of any state in India to restrictions where the army and police control their everyday free movement (however restrained and professional our army) coupled with no development then you can be sure it is a recipe for disaster.
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                        Joe
                        May 5, 2017 at 1:44 pm
                        The moment some readers hear stan, they loose their heads and start talking juvenile jingoistic rubbish that can never be successful Geo-politics nor a modern state's approach to resolving a very complex issue and the funny things is, many of these s think that they are the patriots and the only people genuinely concerned about India.
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                          Ananth
                          May 5, 2017 at 4:30 pm
                          They are the people who have complicated it. From day one they should have been dealt like other states and neither they nor the country would ever have had any problem.
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                          vijay
                          May 5, 2017 at 12:21 pm
                          Stop all wahabi illegal channels (pak and saudi channels) as repiorted in times of india....airing anti india sentiments...This will have severe psychological impact on people...
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                            Yadoo
                            May 5, 2017 at 3:25 pm
                            When the oil runs out in saudi and their revenue ceases, all this terror funding will stop. and hopefully these mullahs may starts to think straight. the saudis will reap what they sow...which is sand for breakfast, sand for lunch and sand for dinner. lol
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                              Niladrinath Mohanty
                              May 5, 2017 at 3:51 pm
                              Really I am curious to know how many years the Saudi oil reserve will last for them to spread Wahabi Islam.
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                                jackal
                                May 5, 2017 at 6:17 pm
                                They can eport their sand for another 1000 years, thrughout the world.
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                              vijay
                              May 5, 2017 at 12:17 pm
                              Yes iam with you.......... dia is with you.........Ram madhav....... S article 370 See how fast the problem is solved....
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                                bitterhoney
                                May 5, 2017 at 12:03 pm
                                All our ultra nationalist leaders should undergo 6 month military training and go to defend our borders and finish terrorists from the valley letting our armed forces to take some rest at home. Engaging armed forces 24x7x365 in war like situation can prove counter productive.
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                                  master
                                  May 5, 2017 at 12:38 pm
                                  One year's​military training with postings on the border must be made compulsory for anyone desirous of contesting any local, state or parliamentary elections.
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                                    Ananth
                                    May 5, 2017 at 4:34 pm
                                    Instead of stone pelter these people should be the ones tied to the army vehicle to ensure the safety of the army men from pelters and reforming of pelters because of the presence of such personnel talking on their behalf.
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                                    Pinna
                                    May 5, 2017 at 11:39 am
                                    When you replace pellets with plastic bullets, you call it muscular policy? The next could be to fire woollen balls so that the stone pelters could avoid even a minor scratch! The paid peters get paid for the job and need no sympathy. Their accomplices should also be treated as criminals and handled properly. MK Narayanan is an old Congress supporter and is intentionally offering contrary advice to further complicate the situation.
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                                      Samaritan
                                      May 5, 2017 at 1:30 pm
                                      SPOT ON !!!
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                                      Mathura
                                      May 5, 2017 at 11:29 am
                                      Fake news being circulated by the so called journalists having DNA of Fake newsmakers that starts with Z and ends with EE. If true we should remember Hitler who his level best tried to annhillate Jews with the false creation of notion of German race superiority but the end result was Germany divided and creation of Israel and death of large number germans and their ociates in the process. Hitler ended his life by commting sucide and his fellow supporters either committed sucide or were tried and punished for genocide.
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                                        Samaritan
                                        May 5, 2017 at 1:36 pm
                                        Not a proper comparison. Kashmiris have been driven out of Kashmir and more than 50 of present Kashmiris are Terrorists/Traitors and Barbarians .
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                                          Mathura
                                          May 5, 2017 at 2:42 pm
                                          Hitler thought so of Jews
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                                          Ananth
                                          May 5, 2017 at 4:41 pm
                                          Good. Only those who were always pleading on behalf of traitors, rebels, insurgents and are thumping their 'anti' Indian view point all the time are the only true journalist and are waiting to dismember the country and dance on its barbadi the true citizens. Rest who are resisting such action and have shown the door to this entire cabal and have made them sit on side lines are all wrong. The Nation is now asking either they behave or will be made to do so despite whatever their efforts are.
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                                          irfan
                                          May 5, 2017 at 11:29 am
                                          No any movement can achieve goals with violence the Fate of Kashmir is an Independent State soon.
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                                            Ananth
                                            May 5, 2017 at 4:44 pm
                                            'Dil ki tasalli ke liye, khayal achcha hai'.
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                                              Tushar
                                              May 5, 2017 at 6:38 pm
                                              we are still confident of our armed forces but if country need in future, millions of youths will join in Kashmir chalo movement and you know India's population....we are almost ready to kick all anti indian kashmiris from J&K.
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                                                Kashmir
                                                May 5, 2017 at 7:24 pm
                                                In kashmir there is no supporter of indian dogs e and get stoned to death.
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                                              krish
                                              May 5, 2017 at 10:42 am
                                              Good step by government. We tried dialogue for so many years with money. Now this is the time to change the approach. What happened to this dialogue when Kashmiri pandiths are ousted by kashmiri militants? If they are stubborn we cant request them to have dialog.
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                                                S L
                                                May 5, 2017 at 10:27 am
                                                It is necessary to take a break from past policies in order to find some success after repeated failures in last several decades .Repeating what has been done in the past shall be further waste of time.
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                                                  Mathura
                                                  May 5, 2017 at 10:14 am
                                                  Fake news being circulated. DNA of Fake news starts from Z and ends with E. If true we should remember Hitler who his level best tried to annhillate Jews but the end result was Germany divided and creation of Israel.
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                                                    Moin
                                                    May 5, 2017 at 9:56 am
                                                    No mercy who claim to be stanis. Just shoot to kill the s. If Abdullah talks nonsense just lock him up or better withdraw his security and he will be eliminated by his baby snakes. No place for any terrorit, enemy of India and traiter. Ruthlessly elimiate them.
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                                                      Samaritan
                                                      May 5, 2017 at 1:38 pm
                                                      SPOT ON!!
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                                                      RANA
                                                      May 5, 2017 at 9:51 am
                                                      what is hizri calender??? when HIZRA mohammad( peace do not be upon him may he rot in forever for f.u.ck g a 9year old girl) and his follower moved from Mecca TO medina a new calender marking the movements of these HIZRAS was circulated
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                                                        P.C.Kulkarni
                                                        May 5, 2017 at 9:27 am
                                                        Now bhakts will term Narayana and Dulat as antintional and will be asked to go to stan
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                                                          Niladrinath Mohanty
                                                          May 5, 2017 at 3:56 pm
                                                          What is the equivalent of 'bhakt' for a Congress supporter? I am just curious.
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                                                            Ananth
                                                            May 5, 2017 at 4:46 pm
                                                            perhaps 'anti Indian'
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