China reacts guardedly to Modi’s expansionist remark

Modi on Monday deplored the "expansionist" tendency among some countries which "encroach" upon seas of others.

By: Press Trust of India | Beijing | Updated: September 1, 2014 4:02 pm
Prime Minister Narendra Modi with his Japanese counterpart Shinzo Abe after visiting Toji Temple in Kyoto on Sunday. (PTI Photo) Prime Minister Narendra Modi with his Japanese counterpart Shinzo Abe after visiting Toji Temple in Kyoto on Sunday. (PTI Photo)

China Monday reacted guardedly to Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s remarks of “expansionist” tendency among some countries, saying it is not clear what was he referring to and recalled his earlier comments that India and China are strategic partners.

“We have noted relevant information about Prime Minister Modi’s visit to Japan. You just mentioned comments made by him I don’t know what is he referring to,” Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang told a media briefing here when asked about Modi’s remarks made during his ongoing visit to Japan.

“But I can answer the question by quoting his (Modi’s) words. He said China and India are strategic partners for common development. Good neighbourliness and cooperation between the two counties is of great significance to the prosperity of the whole world and all mankind,” Qin recalled Prime Minister Modi’s comments made on an earlier occasion.

Modi today deplored the “expansionist” tendency among some countries which “encroach” upon seas of others.

“We have to decide if we want to have ‘vikas vaad’ (development) or ‘vistar vaad’ (expansionism) which leads to disintegration. Those who follow the path of Buddha and have faith on ‘vikas vaad’, they develop. But we see, those having ideas of the 18th century, engage in encroachments and enter seas (of others),” Modi said.

The Prime Minister did not name any country but the comments may be seen as targeting China which is engaged in territorial disputes with a number of its neighbours, including India, Japan and some others including Vietnam.

Asked how China sees Modi’s visit to Japan ahead of Chinese President Xi Jinping’s proposed visit New Delhi expected to be in the third week of this month, Qin said “I want to stress that China and India are major countries. We both advocate and practice the five principles of peaceful coexistence.”

“With regard to Xi’s visit to India, during BRICS summit, President Xi had a good meeting with Prime Minister Modi,” he said, adding that the two leaders agreed that Xi should visit India in the neat future.

“The two sides are in close communication on the relevant issue,” he said.

In February this year, Modi had accused China of having an expansionist mindset, a charge refuted by Beijing.

During a poll rally in Arunachal Pradesh, Modi had said, “China should shed its expansionist policy and forge bilateral ties with India for peace, progress and prosperity of both the nations.”

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    kyzylkumkohlrabi
    Sep 1, 2014 at 11:52 pm
    Sounds a lot like India (my country), except not as messed up. I'm sorry, but most metrics of human development indicate that China is far better poised for the future than India. We are collapsing, and we'll probably go down like a house of cards in maybe two generations due to water shortage, rampant potion growth, and general apathy among the mes and the leadership.
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    adhik
    Sep 2, 2014 at 12:55 pm
    you are right.... :)
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    TAGA_MAKATI
    Sep 1, 2014 at 3:18 pm
    No he did not.
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    amakant
    Sep 1, 2014 at 11:24 am
    Wrong. 18th Century is when the British East India Company fought and won the Battle of Pley in 1757 and effectively starting the British rule over India. Its victory in India spurred the British to launch wars in an, Indonesia and China after which the saying 'Britannia Rules the Waves' came about. Modiji is referring to the British Empire as being the expansionist country.
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    Abolition
    Sep 2, 2014 at 3:22 pm
    So you wouldn't recommend any foreign dignitaries visit China either?
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    dosomethingfunandexciting
    Sep 2, 2014 at 12:08 am
    ni hao John, I am impressed readers from China are commenting on a touchy diplomacy. I am a strong believer of China and it's people. I am of view that no country or politicians ever think the long term impact of their actions. The past drives their emotions and hence the present is F'd up. China's aggression towards an is normal behavior as an sowed the seeds of hatred but their aggression towards Vietnam and other smaller Asian neighbors is confusing. Similarly India is wary of China due to obvious reasons of past war and our view that China cannot be trusted. We do not have a common interest so there I no point of trust. Probably we as people of this nation should build a common interest and forge a stronger Asia. Me and one of my colleague from Mainland always talk about what-if we were a peaceful nation the rich culture and simple living would be a topic of envy for the rest
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    DrKVRanjit
    Sep 1, 2014 at 8:04 pm
    GREAT GAME TO GRAB GLOBAL SUPREMACY BOOMERANGING UPON ITS ORIGINATORS The real source of THE problem facing Greece as well as the USA,an&EU etc is that now the above have become victims of THE INSIDIOUS 'ECONOMIC WARFARE' ( The great game is to somehow grab GLOBAL SUPREMACY in half the time span by SUBVERTING other country's economy ) by China by making most other countries run huge trade deficits with it.Thus displacing millions of jobs(1billion$ trade deficit = approx10000 to 100000 jobs lost depending upon high tech to labour intensive respectively) from EU,an&USA leading to the highly vicious chain cycle of trade deficits,job losses,slowdown in spending,revenue crunch,debt burdens,austerity measures leading to further job losses&each leading to the otherpounded with BANKS and GOVTS lowering interest rates to below their self-sustenance levels,for industries to remain compeive which again is leading to BANKING FAILURE. The only solution is to replace 'FREE' trade with 'FAIR' and maintain&improve trade balance by drastically cutting imports from and exporting more to countries with which the affected have marked trade deficits thus adding to job creation. Ultimately like stan's terrorism the Economic&Cyber terrorism to warfare of China will be BOOMERANGING upon themselves the ominous signs of which are already evident While the USA etc would have been responsible earlier for exploiting with which intention only the WTO started the Free trade policy since the west with their advanced technology dreamt of capturing world markets beating compeors.But China etc with its low sometimes enforced and manited manufacturing costs beat the west to exploit the Free trade and became the major exporting country SUBVERTING western industries with low manufacturing costs binding western corporates into Chinese operations to maximize profits.The result was mive unemployment in the west basically the precursor of the CURRENT economic CRISIS.Among the EU countries Germany which now has a trade surplus is least affected by the EU debt problem in itself and unmistakably proves that trade deficits are the root cause of the economic crisis.All this is going to boomerang upon China etc when the western economies fail in a year or two and half the Chinese exports which are to these countries lose out leading to economic&social crisis in China.The early 1990s scenario in indonesia,Mexico,erstwhile USSR,EEC offers a precedent of the likely outcome Moreover The loss of millions of Jobs in USA&EUetc(at the rate of $50000 annual PCI leads to a loss of income&revenue with consequent loss of spending to the tune of 50billion$ per 1million unemplo)has resulted in a vicious GDP downturn combined with unsolvableTrillions of $s of debts.And the only long term and permanent solution now is STRUCTURED AND ORDERLY EXIT FROM EZ(Eurozone)WITH COUNTRIES REVERTING TO THEIR OLDER AND TIME TESTED CURRENCIES BEING THE RADICAL REMEDY
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    CalvinFountain
    Sep 1, 2014 at 2:40 pm
    I am a Chinese working as a China analyst at a think tank. It is becoming more and more apparent to many people, that the ruling Chinese Communist Party (CCP) knows it is on its last straw of survival.The party is facing severe and endlessly increasing systematic stress on all fronts:1. Increasing external oppositions from all other countries in the world including all of China's neighbours. They are forming more and more alliances and becoming more outspoken with rising strengths against China, in addition to increasing anti-China sentiment from people in all other countries. Many countries including Canada and Australia and U.S. have just tightened their immigration policy to prevent Chinese from entering their countries. Even on these casual internet message boards, when you look past the paid Chinese propaa professional commenters, you notice rising general anti-China feelings from all over the world.2. Increasing internal severe and mive violent social unrest and anti-CCP mutiny from people of all Chinese living places. To beat down internal dissent in mainland China, the CCP every year is forced to spend even more money than on its mive military budget. All the semi-external places (Hong Kong, Xinjiang, Tibet, Macau) are fighting harder and harder to break free from China. Taiwan is for all practical purposes already a separate democratic country, with its own army specificly trained to fight the PLA, and anti-China sentiment there (especially among younger Taiwanese generation) is at all-time high after seeing how China violently suppress Hong Kong as an example of "reunification". This w situation is continuously worsened by the free flow of information, with Chinese people knowing more and more from travelling abroad and learning about truths from jumping beyond the "Great Fire Wall" on the internet.3. Its own economy and social system never able to advance to higher level beyond m skill-less manufacturing, due to complete absence of law and common morals. High technology and innovations and scientific development all require many citizens working together voluntarily contributing long term in a system they trust, with things like rule of law, no censorship on knowledge, no restrictions on speech and expression, copyrights, open minds, patents, common morals when collaborating and trading with each other etc. These qualities are all destro in modern China by the CCP. When was the last time you heard an announcement of technology development or innovations or scientific breakthrough coming from a Chinese organization / company / university? You haven't because there ain't any. Unlike m manufacturing factory work, high level human developments cannot be forced by or bought with a dictator's central planning. The only way contemporary China gets these things is from stealing and spying from all other countries e.g. secretly installing spywares in foreign executives' electronic devices when they enter China, but that has become much more difficult since the w world has caught on to their act.This systematic fatal flaw is why you do not see even one Chinese b or company that can compete in the international market in any industry of the human race. For example Lenovo, who is already one of the few Chinese bs some people may have heard of, cannot make either the chips that power their computers or the operating system that run them, so it is just one of many plain vanilla boxmakers without any compeive advantage offering only cheap price. Another example Huawei is blacklisted by many countries and international customers because everyone knows Huawei's products send all communication data back to the CCP. This CCP weakness is also why China cannot produce even one home-grown science Nobel Prize winner in its history, nor one famous business guru, nor one cultural figure, not even a third rate national soccer team. No rule of law in China also means no people or businesses, both Chinese and foreign, ever invest in China long-term or on a large scale because everything frequently change on a whim along with the political climate. No one trusts any contract or agreement in China because they are always broken by the Chinese and there is no legal protection whatsoever, meaning China can never advance to a knowledge economy or service economy. Your business can be taken from you any second by the military police working for someone with "guanxi". No rule of law also ensures Shanghai fail to become a financial city despite the CCP dumping huge resources into it for 30 years.4. China's m skill-less manufacturing itself is going away to other countries due to sharply increasing costs and openly hostile and unfair business environment full of frauds and sanctioned protectionism and government robberies. The labor force is endlessly more demanding in wages and benefits expectations and working conditions, especially since all of today's Chinese workers are single child used to coddling and indulgement by their own family. It is further worsened by the rise of robotic automatic manufacturing and 3D printing. This situation is a death knock to the "growth-based legitimacy" of the CCP, which is the only thing CCP can rely on for continuing ruling power. For sure Chinese people tolerate or even "like" the CCP when the economy seemingly explodes, but when one day it crashes and the country's hopeless bad shape hit them in the face the people's "support" for the CCP will turn on a dime.Since six months ago, all the major economic indicators for China have gone on a continuing nosedive - including manufacturing orders, export volume, commercial investments, graduate employment rate, corporate credits, foreign capital inflow, domestic consumptions, real estate prices, consumer spendings, luxury goods demand, HSBC Service PMI, survey of business sentiments etc. Suddenly all the rich Chinese tourists gobbling up luxury goods at different world cities seem to have disappeared altogether. The CCP is on its last resort of printing literally trillions of worthless renminbi to dump into mive failing and zero ROI "state projects" that only enrich corrupted CCP officials. China's huge multi-year increase of M2 money supply (it is afraid to publish the figures citing "national security") causes way more long-term harm on itself than short-term help, and when that is over there is nothing else the CCP can do to prop up the failing economy. China currently ranks 82nd on GDP per capita and that is the highest it can go before falling sharply in the coming near future.5. Fierce unstoppable purges and mutually-destructive infighting among different factions within the party, who are imprisoning and killing each other every day. This power grab goes on under the laughable thin guise of "anti-corruption drive" when everyone knows all officials in china are corrupted. No work to manage the country or guide the ship is being done while this is going on.6. Its many previously-suppressed fatal problems have all grown too big to be contained all catching up to the CCP e.g.- severe carcinogenic poisonous pollution everywhere in air and water and soil and their own food etc, with the WHO issuing multiple warnings on Chinese potion having the fastest cancer growth rate in the w world- skyrocketing unrepayable bad debts of all kinds everywhere, its true scope no one on Earth knows because all data from China are faked- biggest housing bubble in human history, in addition to innumerous crumbling "ghost cities" and shoddily-built vanity project "GDP-creating" infrastructure that cannot and will not be used- rapidly aging demographics with a 140:100 male:female ratio (from one child policy, culture of "leftover women", and many Chinese families killing their own daughters so as to chase boys)- world's no.1 wealth inequality, with a Gini coefficient rivaling 18th century France just before the French revolution- complete absence of soft power / cultural influence / social attraction, partly due to CCP censorship. One result of which is minimal and sharply dwindling number of foreign professionals and tourists and students going to China. It also means the CCP only has force as the only tool to use on the international stage- all Chinese chasing foreign-b goods and services while ditching low-quality Chinese-bs, who have a well known history of poisoning their own food and their own baby formula so as to make more money. This dashs CCP's hope to build indigenous industries and a domestic consumption economy- corruptions and fraud throughout the w rotten core of a system- desperate m exodus at all levels of Chinese society to escape the country using emigration or buying houses / study abroad or marriage to foreigners or plain old human smuggling, resulting in all able Chinese leaving taking huge amounts of talents and money out of the country- the law of large numbers, "middle-income trap", "Minsky moment", "Lewis inflection point" all work against the growth-based legitimacy CCP desperately needs for its survivalMost importantly, the CCP knows that if 1.4 billion Chinese learn about basic human qualities such as morals, truth, justice, human rights, rule of law, fairness, freedom, universal values etc the CCP will be toppled very quickly. Therefore its state-controlled brainwashing education and propaa machinations ensure a complete lack of morals and regard for laws in all Chinese growing up and beyond. Coupled with the fact that Chinese do not work well together, this results in failure in all basic aspects of human interactions with every modern Chinese, whether it is business trading / personal dealings / technology development / creating innovations / human communications / scientific research / artistic expressions / teamwork collaborations / academic exchange etc. Another propaa brainwashing technique used by the CCP is to make all Chinese people pathologically nationalistic and very emotional on this issue, so the CCP can always create and point to some "foreign enemies" so as to hide all the domestic crises and government robberies going on. This attention-diverting technique is the same trick magicians have used for more than a thousand years to fool their audience.An interesting example would be the Chinese reaction to this report - they are expected to dismiss this report as total rubbish, accuse the author "unpatriotic" for saying the truth, shout China will only become richer and stronger than all other countries, yet they will give no counter-arguments and they will make no acknowledgement to the horrible factual conditions and complete lack of basic human qualities listed above in modern China. Ironically, the longer Chinese people deny or refuse to acknowledge the CCP problem, the longer they are only digging themselves into the and hurting themselves for any chance of recovery, causing the chinese economy to crash even further. Consider the example of Google, Facebook, Wikipedia, Youtube, Whatsapp, Twitter, Instagram etc - these services are all completely banned in China while at the same time the rest of the planet are on these services every second communicating ideas with each other, making friends, exchanging knowledge, doing business, working together, improving science and technology and arts, and advancing humanity.Some people say China economically developed a lot in past 20 years, but the truth is this "development" is actually debt borrowed against the future. After the 1989 Tiananmen Square macre of their own students, in order to survive and hang on to power, the CCP was forced to pursue short-term explosive economic growth that sacrifice everything else, including a foundation or potential for long-term economic and social development. This "scorched earth" policy is like winning the lottery for corrupted CCP officials who can rob a lot of money from the country in the short-term before escaping to America. The only eny left to suffer is China's future from this point on, a country that has been turned by the CCP into a place with no law, no morals, no system for future scientific or economic or social development, no spiritual support apart from money, no trust or cooperation among Chinese, no trust or goodwill from foreigners, no other country as friends, all resources sold away cheaply, entire environment and air and water and soil and food fatally polluted, only social recognition is to make a lot of money for "face", no creativity or personal development for Chinese young people, a populus not allowed to know the truths and not allowed to say the truths.The end result is that majority wealth of this "debt borrowed against the future" has gone to the 0.0000001% elite ruling cl "princeling" CCP families (about 250 of them) who have already smuggled trillions of dollars abroad along with their U.S. pports and their own children (all Chinese elites and Politburo members hold foreign pports, with U.S. and U.K. being the most sought after choice). For the CCP in 1989, 1.4 billion people is great central-planning et when the country start from nothing and you order them to do backbreaking m manufacturing repeive factory work 20 hours a day without workers protection of any kind. But in the 2014 borderless knowledge economy when that no longer works, 1.4 billion immoral and uncooperative and selfish and undeveloped and angry Chinese contained in a lawless system without any hopes of growth is very, very dangerous liability for the CCP.All debts against the future have to be paid back - China is no exception. That moment may arrive a bit later than expected but it surely will come, as it has on 100% of occasions in human history. In normal countries bad conditions correct themselves with short periods of market ups and downs, but in China the CCP suppress all problems and criticisms until inevitable system meltdown. For China the moment has arrived to suffer the consequences for all its own chosen actions in past 30 years. All the festering fundamental systematic problems listed above and much more, are only getting worse and worse everyday until one day when the system can suddenly no longer bear.Think USSR in 1989.( Cliff notes summary for the smartphone generation with ADD, ADHD and Asperger's:- The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) signed a deal with the devil to pursue miraculous short-term economic growth- Miraculous short-term economic growth has been achieved, now China has hit the wall on its path of no return, many bad conditions have caught up- CCP cannot go on externally, it cannot go on internally, economy has no way to go but greatly down, many fatal cancers and huge structural problems from the past now overwhelming the country- Something has to break, what happens is anyone's guess, guaranteed to greatly impact China and the world )
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