At Science Congress, Vedic aeroplanes and virus-proof suits

Showpiece conference beginning today has symposium on ‘ancient sciences through Sanskrit’

Written by Mihika Basu | Mumbai | Published:January 3, 2015 1:38 am
Science Congress, virus proof suits, vedic aeroplanes The Prime Minister will inaugurate the Indian Science Congress in Mumbai on Saturday. (Source: Express photo by Prashant Nadkar)

In 1895, a “full eight years before the Wright Brothers’ first flight at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina, USA”, a couple, “Shivkar Bapuji Talpade and his wife gave a thrilling demonstration flight on the Chowpatty beach in Mumbai”.

So reads the abstract of a paper on “Ancient Indian Aviation Technology”, to be presented at the Indian Science Congress, which begins in Mumbai tomorrow.

The congress, in its 102nd edition, will be inaugurated by Prime Minister Narendra Modi at the Sports Complex, Kalina. The congress has returned to Mumbai after 45 years, and is being hosted by Mumbai University after 54 years.

The paper on aviation is part of a symposium on “ancient Indian sciences through Sanskrit”, and will be presented by Captain Anand Bodas, retired principal of a pilot training centre, and Ameya Jadhav, lecturer at Mumbai’s Swami Vivekanand International School and Junior College.

Other papers at the symposium are on “engineering applications of Ancient Indian botany”, the “neuro-science of yoga: understanding the process”, “advances in surgery in Ancient India” and “scientific principles of Ancient Indian architecture and civil engineering”.

Prakash Javadekar, union Minister for Environment, Forests and Climate Change, will give the inaugural address.

The abstract of the Bodas-Jadhav paper says: “Aviation technology in ancient India is not a tale of mythology, but it is a total historical document giving technical details and specifications. Ancient Sanskrit literature is full of descriptions of flying machines, Vimanas.

“From the many documents found, it is evident that the scientist-sages Agastya and Bharadwaja had developed the lore of aircraft construction. Aeronautics or Vaimaanikashastra is a part of Yantra Sarvasva of Bharadwaja. This is also known as Brihadvimaana Shastra. Vaimaanikashastra deals with aeronautics, including the design of aircraft, the way they can be used for transportation and other applications, in detail.”

According to the abstract, the knowledge of aeronautics is described in Sanskrit in 100 sections, eight chapters, 500 principles and 3000 slokas.
“Great sage Bharadwaja explained the construction of aircraft and way to fly it in air, on land, on water and use the same aircraft like a submarine,” the abstract says.

“He also described the construction of war planes and fighter aircraft. This paper will deal with manufacturing an alloy for making aeroplanes, the specialised dress material being virus proof, waterproof and shock proof for the pilots. This was given by Bhardwaja sage in Brihatvimanshashtra. He had mentioned 97 reference books for aviation.”

According to the abstract, the paper will provide a short account of the special diet for aviators, and on “emergency food” for times when regular “fooding facility was not available or possible”, as recommended in the Aharadhikaran.

“Bharadwaja has considered the climatic changes in the atmospheric levels while considering the dressing of the pilot. He has mentioned 25 types of viruses in the atmosphere which attack the human skin, bones and the body… In Vastradhikaran, he has given the reason for special clothing and the process of making fabric. After studying all above points, which are mentioned in Brihatvimanshashtra, we came to know that ancient Indian sciences and specially aviation technology was so advanced. The most interesting thing about the Indian science of aeronautics and Bharadwaja’s research was that they were successfully tested in actual practice by an Indian over hundred years ago. In 21st century, we should study and spread the achievements of our sages,” says the abstract.

The abstract of the paper on advances in surgery in Ancient India, to be presented by ayurvedic physician Dr Ashwin Sawant, will describe the advances made by Indian surgeons “thousands of years before the rise of the modern surgery”.

It says Indians had developed 20 types of sharp instruments and 101 types of blunt instruments required for surgery, all of pure iron, and many of which resemble modern surgical instruments.

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    Ashok
    Jan 4, 2015 at 5:07 pm
    It is nice to see that scientist try to explore and understand our vedic knowledge and present research paper in ISC like conference that will boost the scientific temper and self confidence
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      Vinod
      Jan 3, 2015 at 12:37 pm
      It is great to know that the ancient India had already developed advance systems of aviation and other gadgets. Then why not develop them for commercial use? Who is stopping us from doing it? The fact is that we are still heavily dependant on the western countries for most of the advanced technology; it is high time that we develop our own, so that what is 'made in India' has an international appeal.
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        CV
        Jan 7, 2015 at 3:41 am
        Imagine this - Some 7000 years from now a space traveller comes to earth in his return journey and discovers in an acient temple (today's film archives) a book which discribes in details how spacecrafts would look like and also about aliens and space travel stories. The le of this book is "Star Wars - Trilogy". Think what would that space traveller think about "Saint Lucas"! :)
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          Krishnan Narayanan
          Jan 4, 2015 at 3:04 am
          What is the problem if the items are taken up discussions.? Recently astronomers in the West have provide proof to accept the existence of God
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            Srinivas
            Jan 3, 2015 at 4:58 am
            Excellent....will look forward to it. At least we will learn something about our history and culture
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              Gopal
              Jan 3, 2015 at 8:02 am
              Isn't it wonderful that scientists are now discovering India's ancient scientific discoveries? Since there are very few doents that can be found to support such claims, I am not sure about the utility of the claims. In any case even if all this is true, how does it help India currently and in building a prosperous future?
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                Gopal
                Jan 3, 2015 at 8:04 am
                The author suggests that we should study and spread the achievements of our sages. What for?
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                  Hemant
                  Mar 17, 2015 at 10:52 pm
                  It is wonderful to know that people in India though about flying and aircraft so long back. However, mere translation of sanskrit text is of no use unless the technology is proved in a laboratory. It is also not good to say that since it is ancient its a myth, that would be blind faith on science. Science requires proof, experimental universally verifiable proof. Even if some the ancient knowledge is translated into todays technology would be of great help to mankind, afterall we are looking for knowledge and not myths. Go ahead and carry out some research to prove it. All the best.
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                    Kumar
                    Jan 3, 2015 at 7:07 am
                    They are going to make a joke of Science. Where were all these historical doents hidden until now? They are only coming out with BJP coming to power.
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                      AP
                      Jan 2, 2015 at 8:33 pm
                      If everything is there , why not show a working model. ;)
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                        Jai Hind
                        Jan 3, 2015 at 6:01 am
                        The belief in ancient technologies would be stronger if the evangelists demonstrate experiments, at least a proof of concept...
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                          Omprakash Upadhyay
                          Jan 3, 2015 at 3:31 pm
                          Need to read more and more Sanskrit we will be be near to science since is to flew plain without fuel time will be to reach upto that extant gyan vigyan and truth will make history.
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                            Primus Purush
                            Jan 3, 2015 at 7:40 am
                            I hope the present administration will walk the talk and fund various insutions and investigators to research these sanskrit texts and recreate such aviation equipments that can allow transportation across land, air and water. Similarly fund biotechnology insutes and scientists to develop anti-viral clothing based on what is described in these texts. Till we reach that stage, I will be happy if the administration can upgrade the technology on airports and railway tracks so that flights can land and take-off and train service to continue to operate even in the dense fog!
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                              M.a. Padmanabha Rao
                              Jan 5, 2015 at 7:28 am
                              WHY PM, NARENDRA MODI JI DOES NOT KNOW INDIA TOPS THE WORLD IN FUNDAMENTAL DISCOVERIES, BY DOING NINE FUNDAMENTAL PHYSICS DISCOVERIES, YET TOP GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS DO NOT INFORM PMHOW INDIA TOPPED THE WORLD IN SCIENCE.On Google search for fundamental discoveries on 5th January 2015 unfolded 6 results are from India in the first 10 out of about 4,10,00,000 results. s:www.google.co/searc...WORLD'S FIRST SCIENTIST WHO DID NINE FUNDAMENTAL DISCOVERIES IN 5 SUBJECTS OF PHYSICS (Nuclear Physics, X-ray physics, Atomic spectroscopy, Solar physics and Special theory of Relativity). RESEARCH LASTED 25 YEARS FROM 1988 TO PUBLICATION IN 2010 AND 2013. Google Search for fundamental physics discoveries will show the results. s:www.researchgate/p...Who is the world's first scientist in doing nine fundamental discoveries and spent 25 years?:www.answers/Q/Who_i...Discovery 1: UV from radiochemicals like 131-I.Discovery 2: UV from XRF sources present as saltsDiscovery 3: UV from metallic 57Co & Cu XRF source Discovery 4: Bharat Radiation (predicted) from radioisotopes Discovery 5: Atomic spectra of solids by Bharat Radiation Discovery 6: Padmanabha Rao Effect Discovery 7: Sun's Bharat Radiation emission Discovery 8: 235-Uranium fission causing SunlightDiscovery 9: Superluminal velocities of X-rays:blogs.timesofindiadi...
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                                RC Nayyar
                                Jan 4, 2015 at 7:04 am
                                Why are these guys so focused on the past instead of building for the future?
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                                  KA
                                  Jan 5, 2015 at 8:44 am
                                  :en.wikipedia/wiki/S...
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                                    Rufusd
                                    Jan 3, 2015 at 7:38 am
                                    The problem with Indian history and the 'Sanskrit' historians is that they are not using their knowledge to disseminate information on the insutionalisation of the caste system which led to the eventual attrition and demise of the knowledge that they claim our forefathers had gathered.
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                                      Sabir
                                      Jan 3, 2015 at 9:42 am
                                      Who invented the poverty for India? Is there any mythological or political reference related to it? All these references made to validate the nonsense of Indian PM are not going to feed the stomach of the poor mes.
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                                        xyz
                                        Jan 3, 2015 at 9:00 am
                                        “full eight years before the Wright Brothers’ first flight at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina, USA”, a couple, “Shivkar Bapuji Talpade and his wife gave a thrilling demonstration flight on the Chowpatty beach in Mumbai”. - Yes I remember it very well just like yesterday. Before embarking they ate Gujarati doklas, danced a little garba and pra Namo, Namo.
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                                          Hummingbird Pick
                                          Jan 4, 2015 at 2:37 am
                                          We all know, many brilliant mathematical ideas originated from India,However this aviation claim is pretty new,for proper analysis, these papers must be published in peer reviewed scientific journals and must be endorsed by science historians. We should also state if that invention or discovery left any impact for the subsequent generations.This is a well researched funded acadamic site dedicated to the history of aviation by Wright Brothers company themselves.It acknowledges Abbas Ibn Firnas to be the first scientist ever to study and test the possibility of manned flight using a fixed-wing aircraft.:www.wright-brothers...This is from Samuel O. Poore, University of Darmouth.:www.dartmouth.edu/~engs... The well doented human flight (with a glider) was first done by Spanish (arab) Abbas Ibn Firnas followed by Turkish inventor Hezarfen Ahmed Celebi.There is a book dedicated to the history of aviation By John T Harding (have written how Abbas Ibn Firnas left a lasting impact):www.amazon/Flyings-...For a non-academics here is a list of articles from CNN,Guardian,Daily Beagle:edition.cnn/2010/WO...:www.theguardian/sci...Spain Honoured Abbas by naming one of the most beautiful bridges in Spain (ibn Firnas Bridge)Iraq had an airport named after Abbas Ibn Firnas (Now not functioning after US occupation)
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                                            testiyrlife
                                            Jan 2, 2015 at 8:47 pm
                                            Very nice. If these are published in peer-reviewed journals, we can cite them for history of science in India
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