His party cautious, Moily says triple talaq practice needs reform

He said religions will have to introspect and reform in every field “civilisation warrants” and “triple talaq is one such area where reform is necessary”.

Written by Manoj C G | New Delhi | Updated: October 15, 2016 11:10 am
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A day after the All India Muslim Personal Law Board slammed the government for its stand on the practice of triple talaq, Congress leader and former Law Minister M Veerappa Moily Friday asked the Muslim community to “think of reforming themselves” so that the “axe of law” does not fall on them. He said religions will have to introspect and reform in every field “civilisation warrants” and “triple talaq is one such area where reform is necessary”.

Moily’s party has been cautious about taking a stand on the triple talaq issue, realising it could be on a slippery slope, especially in Uttar Pradesh where assembly elections are due early next year. The Congress merely said it has full faith in the Supreme Court which has always safeguarded rights of women.

Maintaining “it is impossible to implement” a uniform civil code “in a multi-cultural, multi-racial and multi-dimensional country like India”, Moily, however, told The Indian Express that rigid practices should change as time advances.

“Any reform in any religion will have to come from within. It is always difficult to impose it by law. I think as civilisation advances, each one and each religion will have to introspect and make reforms in whichever field civilisation warrants. I don’t think we can have very rigid practices. Triple talaq is one such area where reform is necessary,” he said.

“It is a question of humanity. Having three wives, I don’t think, any religion can propagate it. Even in so far as Islam is concerned, they are also not propagating it. Many Muslim countries don’t practice triple talaq… So, instead of waiting for a public debate and waiting for a law to tell us what should be done, it is high time our Muslim brothers and sisters think of reforming themselves, so that the axe of law will not fall on them,” he said.

On the uniform civil code, Moily said it was not implementable. “It is impossible to implement it in a multi-cultural, multi-racial and multi-dimensional country like India. And anybody who thinks it is a communal agenda, then they are wrong. This cannot be a Hindu-vs-Islam or Islam-vs-Hindu. Multiple practices are available… Any number of tribals we have in the country, they have their own personal laws. Many of the backward classes… for example, some of the families, in fact a majority of the families in my district that is Dakshina Kannada, and Udupi and also in coastal Kerala, we have the marumakkathayam (matrilineal inheritance) practice… through a uniform civil code, you cannot bulldoze them,” he said.

He said the uniform civil code cannot just be viewed in the context of Muslims. “This is a question of practices of many communities, hundreds of communities in India. So when you address uniform civil law, you cannot just limit it only to Muslims. Or the Hindus only. Hindu, as such, is not a religion in our country. Hindu consists of components of various communities… So there is no such thing… a clear demarcation of Hindu vs Muslim. Within Hindus, there are many practices. It has to be acknowledged.”

“Even though, we have incorporated it in the Constitution of India… we could not implement it. Many debates have taken place. It is not the first time the Law Ministry has come out with it. Even during B R Ambedkar’s days as Law Minister, he wanted to do this. But he could not do it. Because the social landscape is such… the country should think of its priority. If you really want to reform the country socially, the first thing to be addressed is a casteless society. If you are bold, as a reformer in Hindu. Hindus should also be very reformative,” he said.

“Peaceful reforms have taken place in the past. Many bad practices like Sati have been given up. But there are still more fundamental bad practices like casteism. Basically, our Hindu society itself is unequal. Suppose, had Buddhism prevailed all over the country, casteism would have gone long back. But Buddhism was resisted only for these reasons. So that is why today we need to think of creating an equal society. Equal society cannot be done by enforcing a law like uniform civil code. And ironically, we often call it is not a union of states, but a union of castes. It is true also… I don’t think uniform civil code is a priority today,” he said.

Hitting out at the BJP, he said the ruling party wants to “communalise” the country to hide the government’s “failures” on development, defence and economic fronts. “So they think that for UP, they have issues like this. Even though they know very well that it cannot be implemented. They will not do it. This is not the first time these debates are coming up. It has been debated and debated and put to rest. People should understand the game of the present government. There is no sincerity on their part. They believe in fragmentation of society, not unity of society,” he said.

At the Congress briefing Friday, party spokesperson Shobha Oja avoided taking a stand. “As far as triple talaq is concerned, the matter is sub judice. And we have full faith in the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court has always safeguarded the rights of women of our country. So we will wait for the decision of the Supreme Court. We have full confidence in the Supreme Court,” she said.

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    Joyce Abrahamson
    Oct 15, 2016 at 6:50 am
    I am planning to paint Mohammed pictures makes with Aisha. Is that ok in the name of art as MF Hussain painted?
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      Jay
      Oct 15, 2016 at 6:46 am
      Every time I write that sheds Islam in a negative light, my life gets threatened by muslims, I get haate messages from liberals, and I’m labeled a ‘racist’ by s who do not realize that Islam is not a race.lt;br/gt;If Muslims are so proud of their quran, why would they threaten my life for simply sharing verses straight from their “holy book”?lt;br/gt;lt;br/gt;Islam is also not a religion,lt;br/gt;It is a theocracy and terrorist cult that hides behind the mask of religion in order to acheive its mission of world domination.lt;br/gt;lt;br/gt;Furthermore, people, including news anchors who call islaic terrorists “extremists and radicals”, are wrong… They are DEVOUT muslims simply following the dictates of their koran
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        Amat Akbar
        Oct 15, 2016 at 6:47 am
        Fact: in the 1400 year history of islam, muslims have murdered over 270 million people.lt;br/gt;Fact: Since 911, muslims have committed over 23 thousand deadly terror attacks around the world.lt;br/gt;Fact: Islam can not and will not peacefully co exist with any other religion on earth. Never.lt;br/gt;Fact: Where are all those so called “peaceful” muslims when the terror attacks occur? Why do they not stand publicly against the attacks as a religious group? The reason….. is in the verses below… It goes against their koran.
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          Kusumadharagowda
          Oct 15, 2016 at 1:08 pm
          At least mr veerappa moily said something good about triple talaqdira hi added 'socialist' republic to the Indian consution even when socialism was failing in Europe.Nothing is impossible.
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            George
            Oct 15, 2016 at 6:56 am
            Bukhari (93:639) - The Prophet of Islam would recite the 'Holy Qur'an' with his head in Aisha's lap, when she was menstruating.
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              Amar Akbar
              Oct 15, 2016 at 6:54 am
              Sahih Bukhari Narrated Qatada: Anas bin Malik said, "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet the strength for it?" Anas replied, "We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa'id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven). Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268.
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                Jay
                Oct 15, 2016 at 6:59 am
                Narrated 'Aisha: The prophet and I used to take a bath from a single pot while we were junub. During the menses, he used to order me to put on an izar (dress worn below the waist) and used to fondle me. While in itikaf, he used to bring his head near me and I would wash it while I used to be in my periods (menses).
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                  Prakash
                  Oct 15, 2016 at 6:52 am
                  Ibn Ishaq: 990 – Lest anyone think that cutting off someone’s head while screaming ‘Allah Akbar!’ is a modern custom, here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad, who seems to approve
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                    Jay
                    Oct 15, 2016 at 6:49 am
                    Muslim (19:4321-4323) – Three separate hadith in which Muhammad shrugs over the news that innocent children were killed in a raid by his men against unbelievers. His response: “They are of them (meaning the enemy).”
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                      Amar Akbar
                      Oct 15, 2016 at 6:48 am
                      Muslim (20:4645) – “…He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa’id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah!”
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                        David
                        Oct 15, 2016 at 6:55 am
                        Muslim (8:3309) - Muhammad consummated his marriage to Aisha when she was only nine. (See also Bukhari 58:234 and many other places). Bukhari (6:298) - Muhammad would take a bath with the little girl and fondle her.
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                          Prakash
                          Oct 15, 2016 at 6:51 am
                          Tabari 9:69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us” The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam
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                            Safia
                            Oct 15, 2016 at 8:30 am
                            It is a practice safe for a safe society safe family away from daily disputes leading to suicides hatred murders. Home is the unit of society. Disobeldience cannot be tolerated thete must b transparency in character n dealings. A bumpy road is always avoided Leading a life is neither moniterd by politics and law it is adhered to relegionof the couple
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                              Safia
                              Oct 15, 2016 at 3:55 am
                              Triple divorce is an axe on mis behaving spouse .wife or husband if they r arrogant never obe parents unruy in schooln college corrupted deserved to b jailed imprisoned r sent to emotional jail of divorce. In case woman is innocent she has the opporunity to search for graceful better means of living. Why she want to b with the person who does not have a balance n gove her one divorce to contemplate n reform herself rectify herself for a better living.why she wants to live a lofe of insults and abuses.just because indian men in politics came for her rescue and women wothout any discrimonation pf caste and creed call her with a bad name divorcee
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                                Srinath Sri
                                Oct 15, 2016 at 4:57 am
                                Why cautious to get the votes ahead of development... U moron Congress party is full of fake..... Pappu told only women empowerment in epic interview by arnab.... Was he on drugs that day????
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                                  Ssunil kumar
                                  Oct 15, 2016 at 5:56 am
                                  Very correct.uniform civil code not possible in India,where so many diversity prevails.have any govt asked for removal of caste system among Hindus.central should realise it and should not b politically biased.
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                                    yna
                                    Oct 15, 2016 at 5:35 am
                                    if ucc is desired, better apply personal law of minority to the at large people; there won't be any such issues like waiting for divrc and so on; under muslim law marriage is a contract that can be terminated any time, why can't the same be applicable to other religions; all religions need to reform by adopting good things in other such religions
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                                      abdul
                                      Oct 15, 2016 at 5:52 am
                                      Triple Talaq had been suspended during Umar peace be upon him the king of Arabia the succor of Prophet peace be upon him due to its misusing. lt;br/gt;lt;br/gt; More families troubled their life, widows in Muslim religions are more than others. Triple Talaq will disturb the society and only cause tear shed of thousands of Muslim women in society. lt;br/gt;lt;br/gt;Many man misusing it . So Government to take prompt action against it. But ensure historical part of it dealt nicely to avoid any fear among Muslims. BJP is in power. So chance of confusion among society will be increased.
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                                        Bharat
                                        Oct 16, 2016 at 12:58 am
                                        Molly sb never came in support of providing reservation or uplifting situation of this religious groups, but in beating them he is always happy.lt;br/gt;Muslims of India have some very serious problems, they need to be solved first, for these problems our Congress is responsible.
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                                          abdul hameed
                                          Oct 15, 2016 at 8:00 am
                                          We don't need your lecture Mr. Moily.
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                                            Anupkrishnan.V
                                            Oct 15, 2016 at 4:35 am
                                            I strongly disagree with Mr.Moily. 'Marumakkathayam' is no longer practiced in Kerala or Dakshina kannada as the hindu law was reformed long time back. Please do not fool the nation by saying 'hinduism is practising casteism in India. It is criminal in India to practice casteism and how can he accuse the entire hindus in India of propagating a criminal practice? There is no need to convert the entire hindus to buddhism to end the practice of casteism. The government can stop it by strictly implementing the criminal law already existing in our country
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