Hamid Ansari wants more powers to take action against MPs

Hamid Ansari urged the Rules Committee of the House to meet and frame new rules similar to the Lok Sabha, allowing the presiding officer to throw out members disrupting proceedings.

Written by Abantika Ghosh | New Delhi | Updated: December 18, 2015 6:17 am
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With the logjam in Rajya Sabha drawing widespread criticism and the winter session nearing its end, Vice President Hamid Ansari, who is chairman of the Upper House, is seeking more powers to act against errant members.

On Thursday, Ansari urged the Rules Committee of the House to meet and frame new rules similar to the Lok Sabha, allowing the presiding officer to throw out members disrupting proceedings.

Sources in Ansari’s office said he may call a meeting of the general purposes committee (GPC) of the Rajya Sabha next week to discuss the new rule. The GPC is attended by leaders of all political parties and the Vice President wants them on board before the issue is taken up by the Rules Committee, sources said.

Ansari’s plea came on the day Prime Minister Narendra Modi met him. On Wednesday, there was a brief exchange between Deputy Chairman P J Kurien and Trinamool Congress member Sukhendu Sekhar Roy in which the latter accused the chair of running the House “on assurances and not rules”. In an interview to The Indian Express later, Roy voiced disappointment over the chair’s inability to run the House and the fact that one party is holding the entire House to ransom.

Following the meeting of the Business Advisory Committee (BAC) Thursday, Ansari told MPs that the continuous logjam in the Upper House is reflecting poorly on the chair and the message that is going out is that the presiding officers of the House are incapable of running it.

Rajya Sabha rules do not give the chair the kind of powers enjoyed by the Speaker of the Lok Sabha to suspend unruly members. The only option available to the chair is to name a member that would automatically suspend him or her for the day. For more members to be suspended, the government or any other member has to bring a motion which would then need to be passed in the House.

In the Lok Sabha, Rule 370 allows the Speaker to suspend more than one member for a specified duration of time — it was invoked during the monsoon session this year when 25 Congress MPs were suspended for five days.

Ansari urged the Rules Committee to frame rules that empower the chair to take action against members. At this, MPs pointed out that before a formal a meeting is called, it will be good if each political party is asked to submit its suggestions about such a new rule in writing to the committee so that there is clarity about who stands where and the kind of powers that the chair should get for acting against MPs.

Sources in the Vice President’s office say this is not the first time that he has sought more powers to act against disrupting members. On April 8, 2010, he had attempted to get a rule similar to 374A of the Lok Sabha rules incorporated in the Rajya Sabha rules.

The rule lays down that any member who comes to the well of the House will be automatically suspended. “The matter was then discussed in the Rules Committee but parties ruled against it. He subsequently tried to take it up in the GPC but that did not work either because all parties took the position that such a rule is not required in the Upper House. Currently, the chairman can only name one member at a time or wait for someone to bring a motion under Rule 256 for suspension of more than one member as had happened at the time of discussion on the women’s reservation Bill when seven members were suspended after the motion was passed in the House. The Vice President may call a meeting of the GPC next week to discuss the introduction of a new rule,” sources said.

Rule 255 of Rajya Sabha says: “Chairman may direct any member whose conduct in his opinion is grossly disorderly to withdraw immediately from the council and any member so ordered to withdraw shall do so forthwith and shall absent himself during remainder of the day’s meeting.” The Rule was invoked exactly a year ago to suspend Congress MP V Hanumantha Rao for a day.

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    AMP
    Dec 18, 2015 at 2:23 pm
    Hamid Ansari is Anti-Indian and Pro stani. He should be removed as VP of India.
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      CID
      Dec 19, 2015 at 2:23 am
      The Consution exists to protect minorities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The majority can use legislation to p laws "to not indulge in cow slaughter", however the Consution puts brakes on the majority's power to make laws: the majority's LEGISLATION must allow an exception under ARTICLE 29 to the minorities to allow them "to engage in cow slaughter" for purpose of preserving the minority section's (Muslim Christian) food culture & tradition which is part of culture. Otherwise, a BLANKET BAN on cow slaughter to include minority Muslims and Christians is UNCONSUTIONAL and MUST be struck down.
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        CID
        Dec 19, 2015 at 2:23 am
        The Consution exists to protect minorities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The majority can use legislation to p laws "to not indulge in cow slaughter", however the Consution puts brakes on the majority's power to make laws: the majority's LEGISLATION must allow an exception under ARTICLE 29 to the minorities to allow them "to engage in cow slaughter" for purpose of preserving the minority section's (Muslim Christian) food culture & tradition which is part of culture. Otherwise, a BLANKET BAN on cow slaughter to include minority Muslims and Christians is UNCONSUTIONAL and MUST be struck down.
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          Dr.D.T.subhash
          Dec 19, 2015 at 1:00 am
          If RS cant be run by rule and orderly, better to be closed. This is "House of Wises" but turned in to political dramas. It is unfortunate that the people of India needs to tolerate and be helpless. The other option is : Civil society should raise just like anti corruption,anti rape movements,agitate against the members disrupting the session. RS under his has become family fiefdom.Please learn to save congress, otherwise byou vanish from Indian political map
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            sg
            Dec 18, 2015 at 2:09 pm
            Wants to crack the whip against whom. I don't think enough was done or is being done to conduct business based on debate. its only stalling the house proceedings by the opp on non issues
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              Hanamant Kulkarni
              Dec 18, 2015 at 3:00 am
              Rajya Sabha Chairman needs more powers to handle errant MPs. It seems he is governed by the rules framed by the General Purposes Committee (GPC) which consists of representatives of all parties. Neither the Ruling nor the Opposition will give him more powers, since they will be at the receiving end on some or the other occasion. Hence, we, the citizens – who are the supreme power in Democracy – should give it to the Chairman of Rajya Sabha overlooking the GPC or whatever. I, as a citizen and as voter give him all such powers that are permissible under Indian Penal Code.
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                Venkataraman Jagadesan
                Dec 18, 2015 at 5:30 pm
                Even though a belated decision but we the indians who are paying the Tax welcome it. The worst culprits should not only be punished but also to be made to pay the loss to the exchequer. If they still persist they should be dismissed from the parliament for ever. This crime is as serious as looting the Tax payers money. Jai HInd.
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                  Vidhura
                  Dec 18, 2015 at 8:44 am
                  Media in the name of freedom wastes people time , energy and money. Just for the coverage all talk and corrupt people's mind. Even a ordinary person in normal life do not accept his mistake and how a politician in power react ? What AAP was doing before CBI (if anything fishy in any matter) action . It is only -for-tat to silence
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                    madan gupta
                    Dec 18, 2015 at 12:10 am
                    जो भी संसद में गडबड करता है, जेल भेजो, इन का वेतन जनता देती है और १२ रूपये में बिरयानी खा कर संसद में पोर्न फिल्म देखते हैं.
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                      manna
                      Dec 18, 2015 at 12:14 pm
                      This looterri scamgresi queen soniya who is now taking the judiciary for ransom with her barbaric blackmails should be ashamed of herself for selling of our country with her gang of barbaric swindellers like gahhlot,hoodda,siddaravan etc. which, have just one aim of making robber uncle, the richest guy on this planet!
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                        Mohan
                        Dec 18, 2015 at 8:20 am
                        Sir, as a citizen of India and a tax per, I recommend whoever stopping productive hours must be fined Rs.100000 per incident. That money can be pooled and distributed to back to tax payers. Let all big fat liars scream and pay fine . This fear of paying fine will fill their mouths with silence
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                          polestar
                          Dec 18, 2015 at 10:43 pm
                          A GREAT IDEA BUT MOST UNLIKELY TO BE IMPLEMENTED.
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                            polestar
                            Dec 18, 2015 at 10:19 pm
                            Also let us not forget he is a congresswala. Is he to be trusted? He is not a friend of BJP and the present Govt..
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                              polestar
                              Dec 18, 2015 at 10:29 pm
                              Know by now she has no shame. Remember what her profession was before she married Rajiv.. The gang of barbaric swindellers was just getting crumbs from the loot . She Sonia was getting the major major portion of all the loots. You can check the figures . India has to totally eliminate all the looters, traitors to really survive and thrive. See how she is holding the w country ransom . The two parliament sessions total waste nothing accomplished because of these people ahd her criminal followers.
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                                Ramana MV
                                Dec 18, 2015 at 8:12 am
                                Better late than never. Even an elementary school teacher seems to have more powers than a Rajya Sabha speaker. Rajya Sabha looked like a big joke for several months. Country is wasting money on so called intellectuals and celebrities that consute this house. It should act as a citizen forum or well wisher for the country if it is upper house and consists of people with name and fame. But then what we saw is a Rajya Sabha consisting of mischievous brats !
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                                  Rita
                                  Dec 19, 2015 at 8:13 pm
                                  If this person is not capable to manage within the given vast power, he has to resign and give way to someone who could do this job better. He is not required to be glued himself in his seat for two decades for nothing doing.
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                                    sivasankar
                                    Dec 18, 2015 at 2:05 am
                                    Rajya Sabha speaker from the congress is playing a double game. Like congress they too have lost the credibility .
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                                      A.P.Singh
                                      Dec 18, 2015 at 8:53 am
                                      Congress will never allow the Upper House of Parliament in this term.
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                                        A.P.Singh
                                        Dec 18, 2015 at 8:59 am
                                        I want to ask for MPs not allowing the house to run, 'wo mere bank Khate se kitana paise nikal rahe hain, Har samaya/Every parliament session" They should be devoid from all perks and the money should be taken out from their account to control fiscal deficit.
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                                          A.P.Singh
                                          Dec 18, 2015 at 9:02 am
                                          There was a film "Chor machaye Shor". Is it true in present context?
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                                            vasu
                                            Dec 18, 2015 at 10:00 am
                                            sad RS/LS are run like Arnab Goswami news our show, only shouting!
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