In Valley’s polarised battlefield, phone is weapon, video ammo

Six days after the parliamentary poll, it’s raining videos, almost one every three or four hours.

Written by Nirupama Subramanian | Srinagar | Updated: April 16, 2017 7:26 am
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A video of CRPF personnel being heckled and pummeled out of a village in Budgam on April 9, the day of the parliamentary election, was used widely in the national media to portray the restraint shown by the armed forces. The CRPF praised its men in the video for their discipline. The next day, as if challenging that story of restraint, another surfaced, this time showing an ITBP jawan purportedly killing a stone-pelting boy with a direct shot.

Hours later, the narrative changed again, when yet another video went viral, this time showing around 30 militants relaxing in a field together, presumed to be somewhere in south Kashmir. As national media was still digesting this new “shocking” evidence of increasing militancy in Kashmir, out came another video, this one with a Kashmiri man tied to the bonnet of an Army vehicle.

“It’s a war of videos,” said a senior J&K government official, “each trying to outdo the other in the brutality they can pin on the other side”.

Young Kashmiris armed with smart phones are the warriors in this video war. The videos notch up thousands of views the minute they are posted and shared over multiple social media platforms, such as Facebook and Whatsapp. Each post attracts thousands of outraged comments, and turns into a battlefield for polarised opinions.

Read | Kashmir valley video shows man tied to jeep, CM seeks report, Army orders probe

Six days after the parliamentary poll, it’s raining videos, almost one every three or four hours.

On Saturday, four new videos had emerged since morning — at least three purportedly showed security personnel using excessive force. In one, three soldiers have purportedly pinned a boy underneath their boots and are beating him on his back; in another, they are making a group of boys shout profanities against Pakistan; in a third, a group of boys have been tied together and being made to shout “Bharat Mata ki Jai”, and “Pakistan Murdabad”. The fourth video shows residents of a village helping CRPF personnel to leave the area, telling them not to worry.

Nobody knows for sure when these incidents happened, or where they took place. People interpret the videos depending on which side they are on, said the official, each view and counter view putting more distance between Kashmiris and the rest of the country.

In Kashmir, for instance, the video of the CRPF jawan being heckled is being viewed as a model of Kashmiri restraint.

The first words spoken in the video are from a person outside the picture frame. He’s saying in Kashmiri: “Dapus choob na khenh (Tell them not to beat him).”

Seconds later, another voice is heard: “Hathawaai (oh what a pity). Ya bechar ghareeb (Poor man)”.

Behind him, a voice is heard saying constantly: “Laayew ma (don’t beat)”.

When a youth punches the jawan’s sleeping bag, a voice is heard shouting: “Oi paagal, kya kar rehe ho (What are you doing)?”

Raja Muzaffar Bhat, a Budgam-based RTI activist, said people across India saw on their television channels only the heckling and the booing, and the jawan being kicked, but did not hear the voices behind. “No one bothered to hear these Kashmiri voices of restraint. These people could have taken away his gun, they could have lynched the soldier, but they let them go. No national channel noticed that,” said Bhat.

While some outside the Valley are praising the Army jeep video as a “lesson” to all stone pelters, in Kashmir, “the message people are drawing is that this is how the Modi government has decided to behave with Kashmiris from now on”.

Read | J&K: Shawl artisan says Army tied me to jeep, paraded me across nine villages

It is not just videos of incidents in Kashmir that get shared. Said Bhat: “Every youngster in Kashmir will have a cache of videos showing communal incidents, whether in Rajasthan, UP, Karnataka, or anywhere else in the country. The reactions we are seeing in Kashmir today are reactions to what is happening in the rest of India, which is reaching here through these videos.”

The recent lynching of Pehlu Khan, another of an old, bearded Muslim man being forced to abuse Islam, vidoes of cow vigilantism, another of BJP’s Telangana MLA T Raja Singh making a communally inciting speech; of the Muzaffarnagar riots — videos of all this and more are being constantly viewed and shared. Although some of these incidents may have happened many years ago, they represent the here and now of India for Kashmiri youth, Bhat said.

“People see these videos and think now Hindutva is sweeping across India, and it is not possible for Kashmiris to co-exist in such an atmosphere. Most of these people are not separatists, they don’t have links with Hurriyat. They are the mainstream,” he said.

“Social media is a weapon and people are using it to mobilise opinion and deepen the divide,” said Waheed Para, youth president of the People’s Democratic Party. Every Kashmiri is armed with an Android phone, he said, pointing to the six lakh connections registered when a phone company offered time-bound free SIM cards as a pointer to the scale of the challenge.

The government, on the other hand, he said, “is doing nothing on this front. Our systems are very conventional. Every hour there is a government event, but it does not get reported. You can’t put out one press release at 7 pm these days. We have to update continuously.”

But, he said, the government could hope to mobilise opinion only if it had something to offer to young Kashmiris to build a stake for themselves in the system.

The senior official said the relative anonymity of the internet had led to Kashmiri youth shifting their “war” against the government online, with militancy and religious extremism being glorified, and everything Indian, including the national media, excoriated.

“People are getting all their news only through these posts on Facebook or WhatsApp and elsewhere online, and mostly it is hatemongering,” he said.

The government has thus far reacted by suspending the mobile internet now and then. Last year, it was suspended from July 9 to November 19. It was cut off five times each in 2012, 2013 and 2014. This year, it was cut off from April 8 to April 14, with a brief break in between.

Junaid Mattoo, National Conference spokesman, said the videos reflected “reality”. “We should not worry about politicians sharing these videos on social media platforms. Instead, we need to worry that those incidents are actually happening,” Mattoo said.

“Facebook or Twitter is only a medium. The suspension of the medium is no solution, the solution is to address the problems facing Kashmir in a substantive manner. We cannot pretend that there is no outrage, that the situation will resolve itself. It will not. The situation in Kashmir is not normal, and whenever there are human rights violations, we will express our outrage on all patforms,” said Mattoo.

He tweeted on Saturday that “if we can shelve Geneva Convention in Kashmir prohibiting use of human shield, how can we invoke it in the case of Kulbhushan Jadhav”.

Shahid Chaudhary, Director, Information, who is active on Twitter, told The Indian Express that the government was considering the registration of WhatsApp groups, a move that was first tried in Kupwara last April. Chaudhary also said the government was framing a full-scale social media policy.

“WhatsApp groups are circulating rumours and speculation, and by the time a denial is put out, the damage has been done,” said Chaudhary. The senior official said with hundreds of thousands of youth active on social media, “we cannot track down each of them, we cannot stop them unless we take away the medium”.

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    vikas
    Apr 16, 2017 at 3:55 pm
    my simple n free advice to all Kashmiris support the country u live in or live in country u support !
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      Praveen Roy
      Apr 16, 2017 at 4:55 pm
      I support America. Will you give me money to relocate there? You cannot even give people equal opportunities so that we can earn our living by our own hard work. Go preach to someone else you ignorant moron.
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      SubbuI
      Apr 16, 2017 at 3:09 pm
      JUST BRING MEMORIES OF KASHMIR PRE 2014 THAT IS BEFORE SAFFRON DICTA R BECAME PM AND NOW JUST AFTER 3YEARS NOW.THIS IS MODI EFFECT.BARBHAT KI NAMUNA.THE DAY KASHMIR IS DISINTEGERATED FROM INDIAN UNION BECAUSE OF MODI'S BAD POLICYS .NALAYAK NMODI WILL BE THROWN OUT BY NOT ONLY HIS OWN PARTY AND SANGH BUT ALSO BY ALL NATION LOVING INDIANS. HE IS THE SINNER AND CAN DEVER SOLVE KASHMIR PROBLEM BY ARROGANT APPROACH AND ARMY STRENGTH.HE IS GOING TO PAY UNLEES HE COME TO SENSES.KASMIR IS NOT HIS AND RSS PROPERTY FOR THESE FANATICS TO EECIDE. NOW ALL HIS FOOLISH ACTIONS REACHES PEOPLE AS FAST AS LIHTENING THIS IS INTERNET WORLD
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        Awais
        Apr 16, 2017 at 3:04 pm
        Now u people know that why we stanis hate India .You occupy our land kashmir .people of kashmir want to Iive with stan. If some one had doubt then go to kashmir and see by himself how people of Kashmir hated Indians. INDIA is world no 1 Terrorist country .
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          Praveen Roy
          Apr 16, 2017 at 4:59 pm
          Who told you that Kashmiris want to join your country? You are not even able to keep your own people alive. What would you do with more? You can't even get inside the border, how can you even imagine to rule over us? Stop your hatemongering and focus on keeping your people alive, you moron.
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          Raja Muzaffar
          Apr 16, 2017 at 12:32 pm
          Please see Kashmir through a human angle...Do not have a nationalistic view ...It is a know political problem which needs political solution ...Youth in Kashmir are well versed with history and they know what all happened from 1947 onwards...How many resolutions UN p ed on Kashmir....plus the attacks on minorities muslims after 2014 has further aggrievated the problem....
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            sushil Ahuja
            Apr 16, 2017 at 11:30 am
            सुनो सुनो सुनो सुनो सुनो सुनो सुनो सुनो सुनो सुनो सुनो दुनियावालों Why do not President, PMO,SC,HC, speak them the truth TRUTH that Allah is NON-EXISTENT, nonexistent just like Ram or any gods or ghosts. And truth prevail that Ramayana was just a mythological good story, like bible or quran....We don't need any Gods,Allah,Atma,Pramatma, ,Hari, (they all never existed among us) Unless we speak the TRUTH to our people and to the world that NoGods NoTerrorismBusiness in Mandirs,Masjids, GoldenTemples, Haridwar, VaranasiGhats...these confusion will be deliberately prevailed by people like ad,Asharam, ModiRam ,ramdev and keep power over us. 09871966707 Guitaruncle Sushil Ahuja
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              Sheetal Pande
              Apr 16, 2017 at 10:40 am
              Just let the Kashmiris go free and learn to respect others as equals. There is no honour and dignity in occupying and oppressing another people for whom we feel no love.
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                Adv. Mashooq Yousuf
                Apr 16, 2017 at 10:24 am
                These brutalities are taking place in Kashmir since the 19th century to which the Indian army has added fuel from 1960's. But, thanks to citezen journalism, now it comes to limelight. We have been thrashed, sla , cuted, and are being har ed at every nuke and corner of Kashmir. Voices of Kashmiri's were tormented and put in abeyance. But, now it seems, that, time has come, our patience is being rewarded. Thanks to new age of freedom of speech and expression, powered by smart phones.
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                  Indian Nationalist
                  Apr 16, 2017 at 10:03 am
                  it is easy to write such articles sympathizing with Jihadists. Please ask these people as to who comes to their rescue when there are floods and other natural disasters? Not their masters in stan but the brave Indian security forces!
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                    sushil Ahuja
                    Apr 16, 2017 at 10:30 am
                    Why does not President, PMO,SC,HC, speak them the truth TRUTH that Allah is nonexistent just like Ram. And truth prevail that Ramayana was just a mythological good story, like bible or quran.... Unless we speak the TRUTH to our people and to the world....these confusion will be deliberately prevailed by people like ad,Asharam, ModiRam ,ramdev and keep power over us. 09871966707 Guitaruncle Sushil Ahuja
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                      sushil Ahuja
                      Apr 16, 2017 at 10:31 am
                      Why does not President, PMO,SC,HC, speak them the truth TRUTH that Allah is nonexistent just like Ram. And truth prevail that Ramayana was just a mythological good story, like bible or quran.... Unless we speak the TRUTH to our people and to the world....these confusion will be deliberately prevailed by people like ad,Asharam, ModiRam ,ramdev and keep power over us. 09871966707 Guitaruncle Sushil Ahuja
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                        Praveen Roy
                        Apr 16, 2017 at 5:10 pm
                        Who told you that Kashmiris think that our masters are in that country? No country is our master. Our military is duty bound to help us during natural calamities because we pay our taxes just like every other state. Just because you helped us doesn't give you any right to humiliate us or to treat us less than humans. Just imagine what would have happened if you hadn't helped Kashmir during floods, not to the Kashmiris but to the rest of Indian state and people. Ever thought about if everyone was dead in Kashmir what would happen. Who would you rule over if there are no people left to rule? Stop with your hatemongering and treat everyone as equals.
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                        Tushar
                        Apr 16, 2017 at 10:02 am
                        God do the Justice .There was an article about how shah and modi used social media during UP election to misinterpret the youth and common citizen who had been voting for SP or Congress through out their life by spreading fake videos and fake news .. They often circulated fake news like ..Hindu gal got converted to Muslim or Christianity force fully,, Hindu boy killed in Kashmir.... Cow were slaughtered and thrown to show the anger against Hindus ..etc etc .and spread such things through social media like fb what's app.. .mainly through what's app. They have appointed X IAS and NIA It professional s for this task in UP ... And most of them frequently tried to intrude in. What's app groupsnof common people and started posting positives of NDA governments (which is not really happened) and negatives of SP congries ... Gradually they have brainwashed people of UP and made most of them anti Muslims ... Now they are back hit by same strategy by kashmiris ... Instead of visiti
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                          Tushar
                          Apr 16, 2017 at 10:06 am
                          Instead of visiting Kashmir and talking to the authorities as an attempt to solve the issue ,these leaders are p ing their comments sitting in Delhi . The Kashmiri youth has got no job and their future seems to be undecided ,thus the frustration is expressed towards the government ... Providing them good jobs and good pay. Could make them engaged and most of them will refrain from such activities. They are not separatists .they are supporting militants as a result of their anger against the government who is not considering them as Indians by providing good living condition like they do in other states . All Indians must have noticed one thing ...These violence in Kashmir is increased since this modi government is in power..UPA was very efficient in controlling the violce through diplomacy .. Country is going backwards
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                            sushil Ahuja
                            Apr 16, 2017 at 10:32 am
                            Why does not President, PMO,SC,HC, speak them the truth TRUTH that Allah is nonexistent just like Ram. And truth prevail that Ramayana was just a mythological good story, like bible or quran.... Unless we speak the TRUTH to our people and to the world....these confusion will be deliberately prevailed by people like ad,Asharam, ModiRam ,ramdev and keep power over us. 09871966707 Guitaruncle Sushil Ahuja
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                              vk
                              Apr 16, 2017 at 2:54 pm
                              Khujliars always lies. If you love stone peltters go and try your luck your master sitaram alreadu bite dust there. Its only few districts in Valley. Security forces are trained to answer terror with terror and i should and will keep happening. Shameless khujliars
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                              Hedonist
                              Apr 16, 2017 at 9:47 am
                              Hindus will extract revenge from muslims in Hindu majority areas for their atrocities in Kashmir.
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                                sushil Ahuja
                                Apr 16, 2017 at 10:33 am
                                Why does not President, PMO,SC,HC, speak them the truth TRUTH that Allah is nonexistent just like Ram. And truth prevail that Ramayana was just a mythological good story, like bible or quran.... Unless we speak the TRUTH to our people and to the world....these confusion will be deliberately prevailed by people like ad,Asharam, ModiRam ,ramdev and keep power over us. 09871966707 Guitaruncle Sushil Ahuja
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                                  autonomous
                                  Apr 16, 2017 at 2:06 pm
                                  Don't create communal clash dia is secular have a positive &peace mind to progress the country.Dont think like pak is ta ni.
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                                  Mahender Goriganti
                                  Apr 16, 2017 at 9:28 am
                                  The only sensible way to deal with this issue is, to declare Kashmir as war zone hand over to army or 10 years evacuate every one and let other Indians settle there.
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                                    asif
                                    Apr 16, 2017 at 9:59 am
                                    Kashmir teray baap ka hai. Indiots
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                                      Hedonist
                                      Apr 16, 2017 at 11:55 am
                                      Kashmir Mohmmad ka nahi hai katwe
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                                        Tushar
                                        Apr 16, 2017 at 1:09 pm
                                        Common. Asif n hedonist .... U guys are such a fools ... Fighting each other to prosper the ghatia political leaders
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                                        sushil Ahuja
                                        Apr 16, 2017 at 10:33 am
                                        Why does not President, PMO,SC,HC, speak them the truth TRUTH that Allah is nonexistent just like Ram. And truth prevail that Ramayana was just a mythological good story, like bible or quran.... Unless we speak the TRUTH to our people and to the world....these confusion will be deliberately prevailed by people like ad,Asharam, ModiRam ,ramdev and keep power over us. 09871966707 Guitaruncle Sushil Ahuja
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                                          sushil Ahuja
                                          Apr 16, 2017 at 11:31 am
                                          Why do not President, PMO,SC,HC, speak them the truth TRUTH that Allah is NON-EXISTENT, nonexistent just like Ram or any gods or ghosts. And truth prevail that Ramayana was just a mythological good story, like bible or quran....We don't need any Gods,Allah,Atma,Pramatma, ,Hari, (they all never existed among us) Unless we speak the TRUTH to our people and to the world that NoGods NoTerrorismBusiness in Mandirs,Masjids, GoldenTemples, Haridwar, VaranasiGhats...these confusion will be deliberately prevailed by people like ad,Asharam, ModiRam ,ramdev and keep power over us. 09871966707 Guitaruncle Sushil Ahuja
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                                          KISHOR KUMAR
                                          Apr 16, 2017 at 9:24 am
                                          ACT LIKE ISRAEL ARMY TO-WARDS PALESTINIANS,
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                                            asif
                                            Apr 16, 2017 at 10:00 am
                                            here is stan do this than see the result.
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                                              sushil Ahuja
                                              Apr 16, 2017 at 10:41 am
                                              Why do not President, PMO,SC,HC, speak them the truth TRUTH that Allah is NON-EXISTENT, nonexistent just like Ram or any gods or ghosts. And truth prevail that Ramayana was just a mythological good story, like bible or quran....We don't need any Gods,Allah,Atma,Pramatma, ,Hari, (they all never existed among us) Unless we speak the TRUTH to our people and to the world that NoGods NoTerrorismBusiness in Mandirs,Masjids, GoldenTemples, Haridwar, VaranasiGhats...these confusion will be deliberately prevailed by people like ad,Asharam, ModiRam ,ramdev and keep power over us. 09871966707 Guitaruncle Sushil Ahuja
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                                              yash sehgal
                                              Apr 16, 2017 at 9:10 am
                                              Enough is enough.. Enough is enough... What this govt is waiting for..lions r showing restraint n pigs r throwing stones at them but there's always a limit. Are we waiting for that jawans' patience gives in n they revolt.. Mehbooba Mufti too is speaking in stone pelter pigs' favour.. Ab dulla is inciting them , Omar is busy collecting video from questionable sources n porkistan is laughing in its sleeves.. Modi ji , i m ur fan but show ur 56" ka seena if u have..
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                                                Mohammad Dar
                                                Apr 16, 2017 at 9:26 am
                                                Dogs of hinduism racism by faith are not welcome in the land of Kashmir, keep out and stay out, Keshmir belongs to the human, not the hindu terrorist jackals of hinduism terrorism, in human form,
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                                                  autonomous
                                                  Apr 16, 2017 at 2:02 pm
                                                  your comment itself shows your racist view,& enmity towards other religion.
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                                                  David
                                                  Apr 16, 2017 at 9:57 am
                                                  Did you just call yourself a lion? Alas! But your braking hasn't gone away.
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                                                    sushil Ahuja
                                                    Apr 16, 2017 at 11:29 am
                                                    Why do not President, PMO,SC,HC, speak them the truth TRUTH that Allah is NON-EXISTENT, nonexistent just like Ram or any gods or ghosts. And truth prevail that Ramayana was just a mythological good story, like bible or quran....We don't need any Gods,Allah,Atma,Pramatma, ,Hari, (they all never existed among us) Unless we speak the TRUTH to our people and to the world that NoGods NoTerrorismBusiness in Mandirs,Masjids, GoldenTemples, Haridwar, VaranasiGhats...these confusion will be deliberately prevailed by people like ad,Asharam, ModiRam ,ramdev and keep power over us. 09871966707 Guitaruncle Sushil Ahuja
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                                                    sushil Ahuja
                                                    Apr 16, 2017 at 10:45 am
                                                    You r absolutely rght ENOUGH was enough but we kept our eyes,ears,minds,emotions closed. Why do not President, PMO,SC,HC, speak them the truth TRUTH that Allah is NON-EXISTENT, nonexistent just like Ram or any gods or ghosts. And truth prevail that Ramayana was just a mythological good story, like bible or quran....We don't need any Gods,Allah,Atma,Pramatma, ,Hari, (they all never existed among us) Unless we speak the TRUTH to our people and to the world that NoGods NoTerrorismBusiness in Mandirs,Masjids, GoldenTemples, Haridwar, VaranasiGhats...these confusion will be deliberately prevailed by people like ad,Asharam, ModiRam ,ramdev and keep power over us. 09871966707 Guitaruncle Sushil Ahuja
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                                                      sushil Ahuja
                                                      Apr 16, 2017 at 11:32 am
                                                      Sehgal ji प्लीज समझोWhy do not President, PMO,SC,HC, speak them the truth TRUTH that Allah is NON-EXISTENT, nonexistent just like Ram or any gods or ghosts. And truth prevail that Ramayana was just a mythological good story, like bible or quran....We don't need any Gods,Allah,Atma,Pramatma, ,Hari, (they all never existed among us) Unless we speak the TRUTH to our people and to the world that NoGods NoTerrorismBusiness in Mandirs,Masjids, GoldenTemples, Haridwar, VaranasiGhats...these confusion will be deliberately prevailed by people like ad,Asharam, ModiRam ,ramdev and keep power over us. 09871966707 Guitaruncle Sushil Ahuja
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                                                      Vikrant
                                                      Apr 16, 2017 at 9:03 am
                                                      Last time during kashmir floods I had collected and sent lot of relief materials for Kashmiris. Now I am just collecting kafans for these jihadis
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                                                        Mohammad Dar
                                                        Apr 16, 2017 at 9:28 am
                                                        Save one for your hindu immoral mom and dad too, hindu child of hinduism in cest by faith.
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                                                          sushil Ahuja
                                                          Apr 16, 2017 at 11:29 am
                                                          Why do not President, PMO,SC,HC, speak them the truth TRUTH that Allah is NON-EXISTENT, nonexistent just like Ram or any gods or ghosts. And truth prevail that Ramayana was just a mythological good story, like bible or quran....We don't need any Gods,Allah,Atma,Pramatma, ,Hari, (they all never existed among us) Unless we speak the TRUTH to our people and to the world that NoGods NoTerrorismBusiness in Mandirs,Masjids, GoldenTemples, Haridwar, VaranasiGhats...these confusion will be deliberately prevailed by people like ad,Asharam, ModiRam ,ramdev and keep power over us. 09871966707 Guitaruncle Sushil Ahuja
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                                                          sushil Ahuja
                                                          Apr 16, 2017 at 11:24 am
                                                          You must understand the core of all the problems of our mother earth.... Why do not President, PMO,SC,HC, speak them the truth TRUTH that Allah is NON-EXISTENT, nonexistent just like Ram or any gods or ghosts. And truth prevail that Ramayana was just a mythological good story, like bible or quran....We don't need any Gods,Allah,Atma,Pramatma, ,Hari, (they all never existed among us) Unless we speak the TRUTH to our people and to the world that NoGods NoTerrorismBusiness in Mandirs,Masjids, GoldenTemples, Haridwar, VaranasiGhats...these confusion will be deliberately prevailed by people like ad,Asharam, ModiRam ,ramdev and keep power over us. 09871966707 Guitaruncle Sushil Ahuja
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                                                            FEKU FAKING
                                                            Apr 16, 2017 at 11:55 am
                                                            That means you have bought kashmiris long ago .
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                                                            ajeet
                                                            Apr 16, 2017 at 9:00 am
                                                            The Northies share the same DNA as the Arabs. so I don't see them progressing.
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                                                              Vineetama
                                                              Apr 16, 2017 at 8:37 am
                                                              Why are non-brahmin jawans stupidly and foolishly sacrifice themselves and their family's future by offering themselves as sacrificial goats to save then BIG FAT A S S OF BRAHMIN PANDIT DOGS!
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                                                                teri
                                                                Apr 16, 2017 at 8:50 am
                                                                Cut Bulla spoted
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                                                                Biswanath Dutta
                                                                Apr 16, 2017 at 8:36 am
                                                                The valley's all connectivity including digital connectivity should be jammed for few days and then antinational and pro- stani groups should be treated /Fumigated.
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                                                                  rawmins
                                                                  Apr 16, 2017 at 8:18 am
                                                                  Social media like what's up, Facebook, google , infact google hangouts should Ben banned in Bharatvrata. These social media are against gurukul system of Vedic government and it is helping the rebels of Bharat Mata who is the concubine of M a n u who wrote and gave birth to all Central Asian origin arya-brahmin dogs!
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                                                                    sushil Ahuja
                                                                    Apr 16, 2017 at 11:29 am
                                                                    U r right Sir Why do not President, PMO,SC,HC, speak them the truth TRUTH that Allah is NON-EXISTENT, nonexistent just like Ram or any gods or ghosts. And truth prevail that Ramayana was just a mythological good story, like bible or quran....We don't need any Gods,Allah,Atma,Pramatma, ,Hari, (they all never existed among us) Unless we speak the TRUTH to our people and to the world that NoGods NoTerrorismBusiness in Mandirs,Masjids, GoldenTemples, Haridwar, VaranasiGhats...these confusion will be deliberately prevailed by people like ad,Asharam, ModiRam ,ramdev and keep power over us. 09871966707 Guitaruncle Sushil Ahuja
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                                                                    Sharma
                                                                    Apr 16, 2017 at 7:55 am
                                                                    The write up started as a neutral one... but ended up as one sided again...
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                                                                      sushil Ahuja
                                                                      Apr 16, 2017 at 11:28 am
                                                                      शर्मा जी आप किसी की साइड मत लो Why do not President, PMO,SC,HC, speak them the truth TRUTH that Allah is NON-EXISTENT, nonexistent just like Ram or any gods or ghosts. And truth prevail that Ramayana was just a mythological good story, like bible or quran....We don't need any Gods,Allah,Atma,Pramatma, ,Hari, (they all never existed among us) Unless we speak the TRUTH to our people and to the world that NoGods NoTerrorismBusiness in Mandirs,Masjids, GoldenTemples, Haridwar, VaranasiGhats...these confusion will be deliberately prevailed by people like ad,Asharam, ModiRam ,ramdev and keep power over us. 09871966707 Guitaruncle Sushil Ahuja
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                                                                      Romik
                                                                      Apr 16, 2017 at 7:51 am
                                                                      Indian Army the most restrained army in the world. Look at US Police force> enough said. Ask Kashmiri stone pelters: should Kashmir Police take a page form their book?
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                                                                        Joe
                                                                        Apr 16, 2017 at 8:31 am
                                                                        America as an example has clearly taught the world one thing, that such an approach is disastrous and doesn't work. Ex Army veterans who have served in J&K have commented in an IE article today that there has to be a political strategy and solution and the Army and the civilian po tion should not be brutalized in the process. Try living with the basic freedoms that you take for granted suspended under an Army and police force, however just or restrained they might be after decades of such an arrangement with annual aberrations and misfortunes on both sides it is bound to become like this. It takes no effort to live out our patriotism through the violence that the people of J&K and the Army have to bear. This is a political issue and politicians have to take responsibility.
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                                                                          George Cruz
                                                                          Apr 16, 2017 at 9:18 am
                                                                          Total non sense and stupidity. What kind of political strategy you are talking about???? Do you agree that the J&K is and has been an integral part of India since the 1947 period. India has fought two wars and has sacrificed lots of resources including the lives many jawans defending the J&K for the last 65 years.
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                                                                            Tushar
                                                                            Apr 16, 2017 at 10:11 am
                                                                            Mr George .emotion is a disaster than diplomacy .. We need a planning and strategy to implement in such a way that the youth starts supporting army .. It's central government who has to provide facilities for that..first thng wot we need to do is to keep those youths engaged in job..help them to raise their living standard ... They will gradually start loving their life .. Right now they have no hope in their future .then wot are they supposed to do... Build a strategy in a transparent way unlike Smith shah and modi who imement hidden strategies .... Let's see the change
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                                                                            sushil Ahuja
                                                                            Apr 16, 2017 at 11:27 am
                                                                            Why do not President, PMO,SC,HC, speak them the truth TRUTH that Allah is NON-EXISTENT, nonexistent just like Ram or any gods or ghosts. And truth prevail that Ramayana was just a mythological good story, like bible or quran....We don't need any Gods,Allah,Atma,Pramatma, ,Hari, (they all never existed among us) Unless we speak the TRUTH to our people and to the world that NoGods NoTerrorismBusiness in Mandirs,Masjids, GoldenTemples, Haridwar, VaranasiGhats...these confusion will be deliberately prevailed by people like ad,Asharam, ModiRam ,ramdev and keep power over us. 09871966707 Guitaruncle Sushil Ahuja
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                                                                            George Cruz
                                                                            Apr 16, 2017 at 7:49 am
                                                                            These misguided Muslim youths should be shot at sight as long as they pelt stones at the Indian armed forces. The truth is that there is no other way to treat these traitors other than use brutal force. Looks like this is the new strategy to demonize the BJP/PDP alliance by the opposition parties like the NC, congress, and others.
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                                                                              Too
                                                                              Apr 16, 2017 at 8:03 am
                                                                              brahmin pig comfortably using Christian name to fool around. EAT SHT AND DIE brahmin pig!
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                                                                                George Cruz
                                                                                Apr 16, 2017 at 9:13 am
                                                                                Obviously you are a muslim nut from either Kashmir or Kerala.
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                                                                                  Tushar
                                                                                  Apr 16, 2017 at 10:14 am
                                                                                  Keralites are educated unlike u North Indian racist and who are curse for this country .. They are educated thatsvy they don't fall for ur fake love for God for building supremacy in the society ... And ur frustration against keralites would never end until they start discrimination ..butbit would start also .... Rub ur. C OK on some cement plastered wall to end yr frustration
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                                                                                  Joe
                                                                                  Apr 16, 2017 at 8:11 am
                                                                                  If an army occupies any state and the civil liberties of the citizens of the state were suspended or curtailed to some degree for decades on end then these are inevitable consequences. It is easy to hypocritically imagine that you or I would never harbor any resentment towards our own army when we do not have to live in limbo like the people of this state. If the police or Army had special powers in your state and curtailed your freedoms just for a couple of years then you would be more honest and sincere in your opinions. Politicians are responsible for this and the civilian po tion and the army are caught in the middle. Rounding up people and shooting them have not worked as lasting solutions even for armies far more powerful and advanced than ours. There is another article in IE where senior ex Army veterans who operated in that state have raised cautions regarding responses like yours which will only brutalize the people as well as the army further.
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                                                                                    Vineetama
                                                                                    Apr 16, 2017 at 8:39 am
                                                                                    @Joe: That fellow George Cruz is a Brahmin douchebag with absolutely no brain cell inside his head like any other brahmin. He is not worth a reply comment at all.
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                                                                                      George Cruz
                                                                                      Apr 16, 2017 at 9:12 am
                                                                                      I have no mercy for the misguided Muslim youths who are committing anti-national activities. You are right in the sense that the politicians in the Kashmir Valley like the PDP and NC leaders who are encouraging these illiterate Muslim youth.The bottom line is that the J&K is an integral part of India and the army has to do their patriotic duty of defending the nation from these Kashmir separatist Muslims who pelt stones at the armed forces personnel. Even the western democratic countries would shoot someone pelt stones at them. The biased news media is also hyping these activities.
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                                                                                        Tushar
                                                                                        Apr 16, 2017 at 10:20 am
                                                                                        George .. U guys out of the urge to seek dominance on other citizen failed to notice on thing ... People are no more submissive like Dalits who stood on their knees in yester centuries jn front of u. Or any army ..they are educated now.and kashmiris are educated far more than Babu's in rajastan orisa Bihar and up ... So. It's not easy to suppress them ...peaceful approach is the only way to stop this violence ..Since they are Muslim.blooded they don't give up easily ..they will fight till last. So better we look for some.peace ful step .... Main agenda should be how to bring them against stan and militants , for that we.must build trust in them for Indian government ..Na George u kinda nonsense keedas are always against the peace ..and are curse for the nation ..
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                                                                                          sushil Ahuja
                                                                                          Apr 16, 2017 at 11:26 am
                                                                                          Why do not President, PMO,SC,HC, speak them the truth TRUTH that Allah is NON-EXISTENT, nonexistent just like Ram or any gods or ghosts. And truth prevail that Ramayana was just a mythological good story, like bible or quran....We don't need any Gods,Allah,Atma,Pramatma, ,Hari, (they all never existed among us) Unless we speak the TRUTH to our people and to the world that NoGods NoTerrorismBusiness in Mandirs,Masjids, GoldenTemples, Haridwar, VaranasiGhats...these confusion will be deliberately prevailed by people like ad,Asharam, ModiRam ,ramdev and keep power over us. 09871966707 Guitaruncle Sushil Ahuja
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