Scindia’s speech vs Irani’s speech: RSS, O P Sharma, Godse deleted in House records, JNU students stay

Rule No 352 of the Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business in Lok Sabha states a member “shall not refer to any matter of fact on which a judicial decision is pending”.

Written by Pradeep Kaushal | New Delhi | Published:February 26, 2016 4:55 am
HRD Minister Smriti Irani speaks in the Lok Sabha in New Delhi on Wednesday. PTI Photo / TV GRAB HRD Minister Smriti Irani speaks in the Lok Sabha in New Delhi on Wednesday. PTI Photo / TV GRAB

On Thursday, the Lok Sabha secretariat released a list of words expunged from the heated discussion the day before over the JNU sedition row and the suicide of a Dalit student in Hyderabad. It was usual procedure. What was unusual were the words that were expunged and those that were not.

While references made in the speech by Congress chief whip Jyotiraditya Scindia to the RSS, Delhi BJP legislator O P Sharma and Nathuram Godse were expunged, what stayed on record were the names of the eight JNU students identified by HRD Minister Smriti Irani.

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Rule No 352 of the Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business in Lok Sabha states a member “shall not refer to any matter of fact on which a judicial decision is pending”.

The eight students named by Irani are being investigated by Delhi Police for their role in organising a protest in JNU against the hanging of Parliament attack convict Afzal Guru during which “anti-national slogans” were allegedly raised. They have not been pronounced guilty yet by any court of law.

Asked why the word RSS was expunged, an official spokesperson of the secretariat told The Indian Express that it was “because of the context of its usage and not the word per se.” Asked about the students, the spokesperson said, “The context in which the minister listed their names was relevant and therefore, there was no expunction.”

Article 105(2) of the Constitution grants MPs freedom of speech, but not to say anything against any individual or to use defamatory, indecent or unparliamentary words against anyone without giving advance notice, including to the minister concerned.

Rule No 353 states: “No allegation of a defamatory or incriminatory nature shall be made by a member against any person unless the member has given an adequate advance notice to the Speaker and also to the Minister concerned….”

And Rule No 380 stipulates: “If the Speaker is of opinion that words have been used in debate which are defamatory or indecent or unparliamentary or undignified, he may, in his discretion, order that such words be expunged from the proceedings of the House.”

BJP MLA Sharma was at the centre of a controversy last week after he assaulted a CPI activist outside the Patiala Courts complex ahead of the bail hearing of JNU student leader Kanhaiya Kumar.

“Karyavahi vritant mein shamil nahin kiya gaya (Not included in the record of proceedings),” states the revised version of the proceedings at ten different sections in the speech of Scindia.

Irani named the JNU students in the Lok Sabha on Wednesday.

“The individuals who are named by the faculty of JNU are Syed Umar Khalid, Anirban Bhattacharya, Ashutosh Kumar, Rama Naga, Anant Prakash Narayan, Kanhaiya Kumar, Aishwarya Adhikari and Shweta Raj,” states the record of Irani’s speech.

The only word used by Irani, which the Lok Sabha secretariat found deserved to be deleted, was “dushkarm (misdeed)”. Irani had used the word while objecting to Scinidia using the same word in his speech earlier.

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    IML sood
    Feb 26, 2016 at 10:49 am
    As said earlier one can spot anti national elements here also .Face is the index of mind so whatever a person thinks he puts that in writing. So these anti nationals are never worried about country's pride and dignity,will never respect millions of martryers who laid down their lives so that every Indian including these maroons could taste freedom.However they want to misuse their liberty because they were never and even now are not loyal to the country live and eat.
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      Hhh
      Feb 26, 2016 at 4:32 am
      There is scientific evidence for the caste system existing for about 1500 yrs . Before that there was Varna system which was good. Suppose it was after the Guptas it started.
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        Arjun
        Feb 27, 2016 at 1:58 pm
        This is getting out of hand. All these people stll supprting rss and bjp. First of all jnu students themselves don't know who was shouting anti national slogans. And kanhaiya didn't support them too. Also he was not telling anything related terrorists all he was talking was about rss and abvp about exploiting this country and they took their revenge like this. They even edited videos of his speech. If people can't still understand tat bjp is making them a fool then i don't what to say
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          S.Gonesh
          Feb 26, 2016 at 5:21 am
          The anti-Hindu Congress and Communists must be banned from Indian soil. Next also the anarchists too; they all are the national enemies of Bharat. They are the creators of unrest and poverty in he country.
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            BM Singh
            Feb 26, 2016 at 3:24 am
            Who stops IE from printing every day that these eight students are innocents and they have been wrongly accused in media and by the police. Nation would start beleving you. Please go ahead.
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              Sundar BN
              Feb 26, 2016 at 1:50 am
              But the MO of UoH on TV swore that the hrd lady lied to the Parliament. Why isn't she deleted ? And why wasn't 'The Father of The Nation' deleted if Godse the murderer was deleted ? While they were at it, they could as well have deleted the entire speech by Scindia. Why leave anything but what the ruling party spewed ? Would've been so much easier ..
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                Anand Mohan
                Feb 26, 2016 at 7:56 am
                Wow what else is left. Its complete authoritarianism.
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                  Deeply Concerned
                  Feb 26, 2016 at 1:34 am
                  Once again her lies has been smashed by the Doctor who attended to Rohith. She must appologize and resign as she promised Mayawati.
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                    Indian
                    Feb 26, 2016 at 5:23 pm
                    About the govt's performance during the last two years, just compare the actual work done by RSS govt. vs. poisonous/violent controversies manufactured by their cohorts/allies and govt's handling (tacit encouragement) of it. Just think openly without any political bias.
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                      PS Azurite
                      Feb 26, 2016 at 3:38 am
                      If he says Irani is not having the required caliber which doesn't mean Rahul is having caliber. Why do you bring rahul in between? Talk about her strength and take the criticism with good sprit, if you don't have the answer. Can't live anymore in the shadow of Congress. We are neither interested in Rahul nor stan. (Often people are bringing this 2 characters without any reason) We want to talk about India and would like to see its prosperous.
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                        Indian
                        Feb 26, 2016 at 2:57 am
                        This democracy is only for the rich, the powerful and the fascists. Sad state of affairs.
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                          GNS
                          Feb 26, 2016 at 3:38 am
                          What democracy ? There is no democracy or free speech in its true sense in India for 50 years now since Indira hi days.It is not entirely the fault of BJP.Remember how Taslima Nasreen was hunted and shunted out of India by our high sounding Pranab-da.What rule of law was there then ? All these upper castes,including yours faithfully though I hated IG, licked the Congress when only government jobs were there.Now with most lucrative jobs being in the private IT,media,telecom,transport sectors,they are going back to Manu Smriti forgetting for 2,000 years they suppressed lower castes following Manu's Varnashrama Dharma.
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                            babu
                            Feb 26, 2016 at 2:47 am
                            Rss'gotsay killed mahatma hi rss's chandra sawami helped to kill dabang rajive hi
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                              JM
                              Feb 26, 2016 at 8:47 am
                              Speaker following rss sript in Indian Parliament.
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                                BharatK
                                Feb 26, 2016 at 10:56 am
                                And stop supporting anti-nationals and terror-supporters. OR ask your mother to join ISIS as suicide bomber. I had to use harsh language to give your own lession back.
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                                  BharatK
                                  Feb 26, 2016 at 10:54 am
                                  Left Congress today = Enemies of Hindus and India.
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                                    Purushothaman
                                    Feb 26, 2016 at 1:38 am
                                    Let it be any university, why the security is so loose as per the detailed information which are coming in medias. Unauthorised people should not be allowed in the campus and the people /students should be checked and verified and a undertaking should be taken from the parents /students. The lack of implementing the rules are the basic cause of all troubles and for everything the entry of political leaders to the campus should be restricted as many of them are interested in pouring oil in the burning fire.
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                                      Deshbhakt
                                      Feb 26, 2016 at 5:26 pm
                                      Just by saying the video will not become fake.Its a genuine video watch zee news u will understand...go to sudhir choudhary twitter handle see for itself that video...bjp is doing what a common man shud have done...if someone uses abusive language at ur face what will u say " freedom of speech".and by the way news24 owned by rajiv shukla Congo mp,every one knows about ndtv.u say tape was doctored court or police has said that video was genuine...Vance mataram.
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                                        kulaputra kulaputra
                                        Feb 26, 2016 at 12:59 am
                                        Parliament should discuss instigation of Haryana riots, economic downturn and plans for upliftment, deletion of irrelevant laws and the like. JNU is a sedition and treason issue which should be dealt with by the police and posing it as a consutional issue is beyond stupidity. Please convey to Kha-ngress leadership and the editor of IE could do well to be a bit more responsible in choice of what to report.
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                                          kranti
                                          Feb 26, 2016 at 10:24 am
                                          Divisive communal RSS and BJP are the number one enemies of India.
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                                            ashish
                                            Feb 26, 2016 at 1:18 am
                                            The consution has been made a joke by these unworthy leaders. there are havoc of other issues to be resolved. they don't have conscience for good governance rather only for vote bank. there must be some qualifying exams for all candidates before elections. these stupids fold hands, waste hard earned public money, get votes and do all is worthless jobs. they don't want to develop the country. they just want to be in government and do all is corruption.
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